Not the "junk mileage" myth again. I thought that had been killed off.
Not the "junk mileage" myth again. I thought that had been killed off.
au contraire sir wrote:
Sample training of Weldon Johnson (28:06)
Early Pre-Season (Feb. 2000)
All runs are at 7,100 ft. altitude and are untimed unless otherwise indicated
S A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 15 miles easy on grass/road/trails
M A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 14.5 miles high mountain run (starting at 8,200 ft, going up to 9,500 ft., then back down to 8,200 ft.) at slow pace but moderate effort owing to the uphill and the altitude, 5 medium to fast buildups on a level surface following the run
T A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 15 miles on grass/road/trails
W A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 15 miles at low altitude (1,000 ft.) w/ 7 miles in middle at high-end aerobic pace (untimed, but fractionally slower than threshold pace), 4 buildups during jog following high-end pace
R A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 15 miles on grass/road/trails
F A.M. 6.5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 14 miles easy on grass/road/trails w/ 4 light to medium speed buildups near end
S 24 miles easy at 3,200 ft. altitude on grass/trails w/ last several miles gradually picked up but untimed (water every few miles)
Total mileage for week = 151.5
Late Pre-Season (March 2000)
S 13 miles easy on trails
M A.M. 5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 13 miles comfortably-paced high mountain run (8,200 ft. to 9,200 ft.) w/ 4 buildups near end
T A.M. 6 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. (Altitude of 4,500 ft., repeats done on dirt track) 2.5 miles jog, 4 buildups, 2 strides, 5 x 1,600 @ 5:03, 4:53, 4:53, 4:52, 4:36/ 400 meters jog between each, 3 miles jog w/ 4 medium to fast buildups included
W A.M. 6 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. 14 miles easy on grass/road/trails
R A.M. 5 miles easy on grass/trails
P.M. (Low altitude of 1,000 ft.) 2 miles jog, 4 buildups, 3 strides, 8 miles @ 5:10 start, 5:04 average in middle, 4:46 last mile, 3 miles jog w/ 4 medium to fast buildups included
F 10 miles easy on grass/road/trails
S 25 miles easy at 3,200 ft.altitude on grass/trails w/ last few miles slightly picked up (water every few miles)
Total mileage for week = 122.5
Yeah, we´re really interested in the training of a guy who is so much worse than Salazar, Kennedy and Williams it´s not even funny.
TrackCoach wrote:
anacondarunner wrote:https://youtu.be/qwDUGD-NURcAnd that was his "long run"!
It happens at the 12:50 mark of this rather uncreative video about how to train for a 5k. Is anyone buying this?
No surprised at all, BK never saw himself as a long distance runner. BK was originally a miler, he was a strength-based miler whose sweet spot was actually the 3K; I think his 7:30 3K,which he ran early in his pro career is better than his 12:58 5K. He was good at cross country because he had a very good physique and biomechanics for driving up hills and foot placement that was good for natural terrain. One of the best decisions he made was going to Indiana as opposed to a high mileage program.
This assertion has already been debunked. See above.
And his 7:30 came in '98, when he was 28 years old. Not exactly early.
I'm sorry if this is obvious to most folks here, but who is Bob Kennedy?
Anacondarunner. I would like to say sorry for pretending to be a mod yesterday and giving you a warning yesterday. I was acting like a child and being a twit.
Sorry.
Sorry anaconda wrote:
Anacondarunner. I would like to say sorry for pretending to be a mod yesterday and giving you a warning yesterday. I was acting like a child and being a twit.
Sorry.
I forgive you.
Newbie here wrote:
I'm sorry if this is obvious to most folks here, but who is Bob Kennedy?
Read the thread and learn. All you need to know is on the previous page.
People forget how good BK was. Had he cranked out 12:58 two years prior...
1987 Said Aouita 12:58 WR
1994 Geb 12:56 WR
1995 Kiptanui 12:55 WR
1995 Geb 12:44 WR
1996 BK 12:58 AR
1996 Geb 12:41 WR
BK led the Olympic race for a bit before fading to 6th
Alan
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Yeah, we´re really interested in the training of a guy who is so much worse than Salazar, Kennedy and Williams it´s not even funny.[/quote]
It's interesting insofar as wejo clearly didn't have the talent those guys did, but his approach probably did a decent job of maximizing his potential.
it's a good reminder that everyone should build their own individualized approach.
take a look wrote:
Newbie here wrote:I'm sorry if this is obvious to most folks here, but who is Bob Kennedy?
Read the thread and learn. All you need to know is on the previous page.
Well, I see he was a guy who never ran more than 12 miles. Basically, this is true of every guy I went to high school with.
Here's the guy who was number one in the world 3 separate times - and, I think the last American who was.
http://www.bunnhill.com/bobhodge/Rodgers/traininglogs/br76traininglog.htm
I'll dig up Shorter's training - it wasn't much different.
And on the subject of using the training of elite athletes as a basis for your own, I believe this:
If someone as talented as Bill Rodgers needed 6700 miles in a year to run 2:10, I probably need to run 9700. And I'm only kind of kidding.