Collegiate runs sub 1:40 800m solo?? This just happened at NCAA's in swimming essentially

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9 years ago 03/22/2015 6:35pm EDT

re: not sharpest tool

not sharpest tool wrote:
Racing time means they are the same... both the same mid distance race.
Do you know what racing time means? or do you think there is 600m difference so it can't possibly be comparable. Thinking the latter, coz you are not smart.

Racing time does not mean they are the same. They are very different activities. One uses 5 body parts in water, the other uses 2 on land.

But sure 600m of difference does make them different also. Or do you think the 800m and 200m track races are the same too?

9 years ago 03/22/2015 8:02pm EDT

re: Missy F. swims 1:39 200 free!

You have to remember distance and mid distance runners don't hit peak age until mid upper 20s low 30s when many swimmers are retiring. Consistently teenage swimmers are making the olympics. You don't see many teenage mid distance runners competing at the Olympics.

9 years ago 03/22/2015 9:55pm EDT

re: heyya

yes, franklin's effort is on par with a 1:40; she is the best in the world, the best ever at what she does.

the time progression for the events track pretty closely on a graph.

both swimmers and runners train extremely hard.

runners experience joint problem in the lower extremity, swimmers in the upper extremity - at the the same rate (ACSM study).

swimming is a global sport, with far more participation than running. and the athletes are actually competing! ( hobby joggers are not competing)

USA swimming and now AAU swimming is light years beyond USATF and always will be; there is money and real paid coaches.

records in swimming are broken more frequently, less drugs.

track records are broken less frequently, waaay more drugs.

(hmmm, home run records in the steroid era. . .lotsa records there, none broken. . .)

track is on life support with no charismatic leaders to take the helm.

phil knight is getting old, and there is nobody writing the check when he goes.

9 years ago 03/22/2015 9:58pm EDT

re: heyya

heyya wrote:
You have to remember distance and mid distance runners don't hit peak age until mid upper 20s low 30s when many swimmers are retiring. Consistently teenage swimmers are making the olympics. You don't see many teenage mid distance runners competing at the Olympics.

There's no such thing as peak age. Swimmers are better at a younger age because they start training earlier.

9 years ago 03/22/2015 10:26pm EDT

re: crazed and confused

800m run is close to equivilent to the 200 Free ... but 200 m Free not 200 Yard free as they swim at NCAAs.

9 years ago 03/22/2015 10:32pm EDT

re: cbenson4

Drafting... sometimes... watch Biondi give the 200 Free away by swimming on the lane line. Armstrong sees it and hitches a ride and has the best finish.

Duncan Armstrong Swim 1988:

https://youtu.be/eVW_rzhoe70

9 years ago 03/23/2015 5:48am EDT

re: egun

I think some of you seem to not have noticed the obvious caveat in this 'amazing' record, 'equivalent' to Rudisha breaking 1:40.

It has been posted here a few times at least already.

NOBODY IN THE WORLD SWIMS THE 200YD EXCEPT AMERICANS AT THE NCAA

It is not a strong record and therefore not equivalent to even the current men's 800m record, in any way.

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