Portion of old jawbone found: more proof that evolution is real.

I think God didn't care until evolution reached the point of Adam. And then he immediately started jerking everyone around.

I think he was caught off guard when humans were just suddenly there.

Obvious Man wrote:

It follows that every single life form on earth is just as 'special' as you are. Every paramecium. Every e. coli bacterium. Every single one just as 'special' in God's creation.

1) What then does 'special' mean?

2) Are you even capable of believing the unavoidable implications regarding evolution and your own significance vis-a-vis e. coli?

I await your brilliance.

I understood your argument the first time. No point in repeating it.

Mankind is special. We are children of God. To put it Biblically, we are "Created in God's image". That is, there is something of the divine in each one of us. Most call this the soul.

So at what point in time did humans become humans? When were we imbued with a soul? Perhaps it happened as God created Adam from the dust. Maybe it was somewhere along the line of evolution. Maybe it was before creation itself.

Just as you can't quantify love and put it into an equation, neither can you talk about a soul being constrained by time, which your argument presupposes. Therefore, your argument makes the wrong assumptions.

To argue whether or not evolution can coexist with classical theology, you must pose your arguments in a theological context.

Created form dust, evolved... You seem conflicted.

Nobody knows if we have '"soul". We just happen to able to express self awareness.

There is no conflict. That's the point.

If evolution is real, how do you explain Africa and the estate its in?

Checkmate, atheists.

Gentlemen, to bed! wrote:

Even if we didn't have a single fossil, the evidence for evolution would be incontrovertible.

Wrong!! It is not incontrovertible.

Fat hurts wrote:

ashes to dust wrote:

Created form dust, evolved... You seem conflicted.

Nobody knows if we have '"soul". We just happen to able to express self awareness.

There is no conflict. That's the point.

Then you're not really thinking about things.

I'm still waiting for there to be proof of any gods, souls, heaven and hell. To say these kinds of things are non-quantifiable simply means your belief system can't be proven true beyond you saying "I just know they exist." That defense just makes you sound like an arse.

biochem major wrote:

5 teeth wrote:

Funny how we can find 5 teeth on a portion of jaw and make assumptions about an animal that until recently we didn't know existed. Especially when you look at the huge differences in present homosapian's size, shape, diet etc...

I'm completely in the pro-science camp and even I have this question about fossils.

You do realize that the Catholic Church mandates evolution be taught in all Catholic schools and accepts evolution theory? Been that way for a long time. While some Christian sects deny evolution, they are really outliers compared to the vast majority of mainstream Christian denominations.

Evolution is problematic in at least two ways, however. There has never been a good evolutionary reason for man to develop consciousness and the ability to think abstractly. And Evolution Theory, unlike most scientific theories, isn't predictive. It simply cannot predict what's coming next.

The theory of evolution doesn't follow a predictive pattern, so why would it tell what happens in the future? It can explain why things might happen. For instance, it could explain the reasoning why a species might diverge if there was an impetus for change. If the Horn of Africa were to split from the African continent via tectonic forcing, any land-based animals not capable of flying or swimming could evolve into new species over time due to a constrained gene pool.

ashes to dust wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

There is no conflict. That's the point.

Then you're not really thinking about things.

This is a lame argument that was well-rebutted. Please come up with something new and don't repeat the same thing over and over. Mankind was the purpose of creation. As already stated, scripture makes it clear mankind was created in God's image. Christ came to redeem mankind from their sins, not apes, amoeba, or any other species. If we share evolutionary ties with the rest of God's creations, that does not mean He came to redeem amoebas as well, as your argument suggests. Redemption implies the capacity to commit sin, which implies the ability to choose right and wrong, which requires higher thought processes, which amoeba obviously do not have. If you don't understand this, then you are making no effort to "really think about things" from any other viewpoint than your own.

rational versus irrational wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

+1

They are. They just coexist in your conflicted mind.

No conflict here. The primary difference between me and non-religious science people is that you believe life started by a lightning strike in a pond full of inorganic scum, while I believe God was the source of that energy.

SMH, Good gawd, why do you people wish to remain so stupid, when there is another option?

There is NO such process in which species morph into other species

There is NO unicellular organism that converts to a multi-cellular organism

There is NO DNA code that has ever, or will ever, re-sequence into another DNA code (another organism/species)

There is NOT one single "transitional" fossil (and in-between creature) on the face of this Earth

No, this piece of jaw doesn't prove that species morphed into other species. Claiming it does only proves that you Darwinists are RETARDED

To prove evolution to be true it would need to be an function of biology that takes place every second of every day, just like all functions of biology take place every second of every day. Instead this crock of evolution has never taken place ONCE.

"There is no such thing as evolution." ~ Albert Einstein

Seriously, you live just once, why go through your life being a retard?

Honestly, anyone who truly believes this species morphing crock is a prime candidate for a lobotomy.

There has never been any idea that was more absurdly idiotic

But to continue to believe even when shown that it is not only impossible but so far fetched it's retarded even by sci-fi standards, that's just a mental defect.

christian scientist wrote:

rational versus irrational wrote:

They are. They just coexist in your conflicted mind.

No conflict here. The primary difference between me and non-religious science people is that you believe life started by a lightning strike in a pond full of inorganic scum, .

Kent Hovind? Is that you?

christian scientist wrote:

This is a lame argument that was well-rebutted. Please come up with something new and don't repeat the same thing over and over. Mankind was the purpose of creation. As already stated, scripture makes it clear mankind was created in God's image. Christ came to redeem mankind from their sins, not apes, amoeba, or any other species. If we share evolutionary ties with the rest of God's creations, that does not mean He came to redeem amoebas as well, as your argument suggests. Redemption implies the capacity to commit sin, which implies the ability to choose right and wrong, which requires higher thought processes, which amoeba obviously do not have. If you don't understand this, then you are making no effort to "really think about things" from any other viewpoint than your own.

The ability to choose right and wrong has been disproven by neuroscience. The complex human is as deterministic as the simple amoeba.

Loot wrote:

Seriously, you live just once, why go through your life being a retard?

Because that's as far as you evolved.

So what species morphed to give you your shiit for brains?

christian scientist wrote:

rational versus irrational wrote:

They are. They just coexist in your conflicted mind.

No conflict here. The primary difference between me and non-religious science people is that you believe life started by a lightning strike in a pond full of inorganic scum, while I believe God was the source of that energy.

No. Non-religious people don't know how it started so they explore possibilities. They don't just make up a story and then cover their ears.