800m help. over training possibly? overall thoughts please

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9 years ago 02/13/2015 8:04pm EST

hi so im a hs runner, im in the 10th grade and would like to know your thought on what you think i might be doing wrong with my training.

this year so far in my xc session i started out good, i was training all summer. mainly long runs, some tempos and intervals about 200m-1600m. i never really took to many breaks, or rest days and i think my nutrition was alright, my times where good, i missed my first three races during the sessions but when i ran my first race i ran a pr of 16:30 for a 5k but after that race my my times where not as good and i dropped back a minute but brought it back down and back up. after that i started to get sick and that was pretty much the end of sessions and i was seated 1st for the conference champs in my area but i end up coming in 13th that day and after that was regionals and i didnt make it to states i was deeply upset for maybe 2 days but i told my self its ok ill come back and do better next year. i dont know if i over trainined or not but thats what my couch thinks is what may have happened. also my friends,coach and doctor thought maybe i wasnt eating enough and they may have something to do with since my energy levels werent up as usual.

but anyways now im in my indoor track sesions and im having same short of problems. my favorite race is the 800m . my pr in it is 2:02 in the relay and 2:05 in the open for outdoor. so how my training looking is

monday- pacers( fast interval, repeat training any where from 200m-700m theres lots of differn workouts we do) hard day

tuesday- easy day/ sometimes hard sprints

wednesy-meet days (usualy run the 4x8,mile,800,4x4)

thursday-recovery day easy run,sometimes a little hard

Friday- ploymetrics or intervals

we also do weight trainig about everyday but workout differnt parts of the body. usually i workout in the weight room or run on staturdays

well to get to the point my times havent been as good this season any my best so far is 2:08 so far but lately have been running 2:12 and up and its really upsetting me since i know i can run faster. also my training parnter who i train with we run and do the same stuff and the same intensity at practice and i ususlly beat him but he has been running way faster times then me which i feel i should be near his times as well. my coach just thinks im not getting enough rest and that i may be over training i trust what he says since he has trained and made a couple of state champs in the distance but i wanna hear what you guys think my goal is just to keep progressing and get better and faster

maybe im just not preparing my self right or maybe im just psyching myself out when i run/race. im just trying to achieve my goal of breaking 2 minutes by outdoor

please let me know what you think. and im sorry for incorrect spelling and errors.

9 years ago 02/13/2015 11:01pm EST

re: banana_and_apples

Hello,

If you are still in your indoor season then Inwouldnt be worrying to much about your times. It seems that you are running several events before the 800 so that could explain your not so great times. From what workouts you showed it seems that you are doing alot of speed, and short speed distance speed. Try some moderately paced 6-8mi runs in place of a speed workout. Or do some longer repeats of 1k opposed to what you are already doing. Its very early in the season amd if you want to do good in outdoor get more of a base and not so much speed.

Last year as a sophmore my first indoor race was a 2:12 and by state I got down to a 1:56 so it is possible. Just keep training. Eat right, eat more, amd you should be fine. Just dont worry about indoor times. If you really want to see what you can do in the 800 make that your only event at a competitive meet.

Good Luck

9 years ago 02/14/2015 3:56am EST

re: SophLastYear

I'd kind of like to know if you've been looked at medically. I wonder about the old HS mono that many never even knew they had. Think you need to have a plan, phases of training, good record of each days training etc. So tomorrow you start. Lets say you attempt a 5 or 6 mile at 2 different speeds. Maybe 7:00 flat for half and back off to easy long run pace, which you have to figure out. Sun u go an easy 5 late day. Mon. warm up mile, then go say 4x600, the goal is to run the 1st 400 at one pace and the last 200 at 4 sec faster pace. So maybe you go 75 first 400,thats 37.5 per 200. So you got to change gears a bit and run last 200 in 33 flat. Then go 100 100 100 after ur 600s. For now take good rests, even 4 min between reps is fine. Cool down 2 mile jog. Tues u start trying to adapt to an easy 2 a day. Just suggesting an easy morning 4 and another late day 4 easy pace. Maybe Wed you don't run. Thurs maybe u go 5 or 6 by 400. or a 2X mile break down. Say 600,300,300,200,100,100. The do it again, good rests between reps and sets. The next day is your long run easy pace. You might want to keep a log. Everyday how you feel, what you ate, your sleep, how u felt on intervals, look for patterns of when and why you did feel good or not. EAT, drink, chocolate milk, try honey..then eat and drink again. What about naps...can you get them in ever? Say Sat and Sun sometime just hit the bed...even for an hour. Then find a day or two like tues and thurs..naps might help u! Keep record of splits add up ur mile split total times..plan to beat them. Slow build over weeks..increase. Maybe insert a 3 or max 4 mile tempo month from now. Track your weekly mileage. See the Doctor in a second if you keep feeling drained. Take care of yourself, your health is everything. Insist on getting healthy, strong and feeling great all the time. Take care!

9 years ago 02/21/2015 3:13pm EST

re: SophLastYear

What did you do to break 2 mins?

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