What is the most doped up record on the books?

Something from The Grateful Dead most likely.

What do you mean "doped up"? Just about all the women's records are doped. Do you mean almost untouchable because of PED use?

Jarmila....holy crud. What a man! Female bodybuilders strive to look like that and they are on eight different types of PEDs already!

Junxia is my other contender. Unbelievable.

What makes you think Bolt's performance were achieved illegally? (Or in this case, severely aided by drugs since you elect it "most doped up")

RunWild wrote:

sheeshdood wrote:

I will go with the women's 3k. 8:06..

For comparisons sake, the difference between the women's 3000m and 5000m WRs is around 8s per kilometre (2:42 vs 2:50). Additionally, the difference between that and the 1500m WR is 9s/k (2:33 vs 2:42)

The difference between the mens 1500m and 3000m WRs is also 10 seconds per kilometre (2:27 vs 2:37) but the 3000m and 5000m have a difference of 4.5 s/km (2:27 vs 2:31.5)

This says any of:

1. Bekele is very dirty

2. The short and mid distance womens world records are some of the dirtiest out there that one could think of

3. Dibaba holds the shortest clean Women's world record at 14:11 for 5000m.

1500 to 3000 comparison should read 2.17 to 2.27 not 27 to 37. Either way, though I'm not saying Bekele is necessarily clean, the evidence provided doesn't point to anything about Bekele because Komen ran nearly the same 5K and so his 'difference in kilometer pace' is almost the same.

Also note the % difference is slightly less for women.

What I think it points to is the women's 3K being absolutely absurd. Back to back 4:03s????????? That's if it was evenly paced.

Also it doesn't necessarily point to anything about Dibaba's status. It speaks to the women's 3K.

I should also note that if the differences between 3k and 15, 15 8 are consistent between men and women all the way down (ie the logic I employed holds down), then yes, it points to serious doping and/or serious doping benefits being conferred to all those who hold 3000 and down women's records. I don't know anything about physiology though so I don't really feel to prepared to say much except that the women's 3 and 15 are some of the most suspicious.

justintherunner wrote:

Something from The Grateful Dead most likely.

Easily the funniest post so far.

well.... wrote:

The last of the East German women's records, the 1500 SCM record, was broken by Laure Manaudou in 2004. Her 15:42.39 erased Petra Schneider's mark of 15:43.31

Manaudou is also a bit nicer looking ... womanly, one might even say:

Manaudou:

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/8/13/32/48/@/1328959-laure-manaudou-presente-sa-collection-950x0-2.jpg

Schneider:

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/135057652-petra-schneider-of-east-germany-silver-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=fOqRSGnZREbdOD5U9z9TH5W2gggY145GEyLLEtA7VwzQVEJXU%2BHJy4T3i%2B9J5fjJ

Let's say for sure:

bucky beaver wrote:

well.... wrote:

The last of the East German women's records, the 1500 SCM record, was broken by Laure Manaudou in 2004. Her 15:42.39 erased Petra Schneider's mark of 15:43.31

Manaudou is also a bit nicer looking ... womanly, one might even say:

Manaudou:

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/8/13/32/48/@/1328959-laure-manaudou-presente-sa-collection-950x0-2.jpg

Schneider:

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/135057652-petra-schneider-of-east-germany-silver-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=fOqRSGnZREbdOD5U9z9TH5W2gggY145GEyLLEtA7VwzQVEJXU%2BHJy4T3i%2B9J5fjJ

Let's say for sure:

http://www.nudesportsstars.com/laure_manaudou/

Au contraire, we're back in the land of doped ogres. Look at her! At the age of 20, looking like that! Perhaps not full on mentrified gladiators out of Greek mythology or the Homerian epics (like the East Germans and the most egregious doped to the gill freakshows), but something that gives pause.

...I guess some people find it interesting though. Yep. I was just, after a hard workout, reflecting on our culture, personal heartbreak and experiences and the performance enhanced exercise for muscles and sex that is the increasingly popular mode of men and women today. "In a way I wonder if she's living in a magazine..." What have we done with innocence... it disappeared in time and

Excellent analysis.

The 1500 also equates to what, a 2:03 pace for 1500m? Its just silly.

I vote Rupp and Radcliffe too. Easily the most obvious cheaters of all time.

they're filthy wrote:

elfie rupp's AR 10K and paula radcliffe

fm wrote:

What makes you think Bolt's performance were achieved illegally? (Or in this case, severely aided by drugs since you elect it "most doped up")

Lack of testing, his times and his build which people take to be slim for a sprinter, when you see him pumped up he is like a man running against boys

Certainly most if not all 100m men and women since the 80's.

Wang Junxia broke the 3000m & 5000m world records EN ROUTE to shattering the 10,000m world record. Think about that for a moment.

Flo-Jo's 100 meter record is the most obvious to me. She set the 200 around the same time so that one tags along as well, but her 100 race is beyond obvious.

if historical records count, the most doped up were during the 50's and 60's when doping was legal and athletes could buy amphetamines over the counter.

reader of the forums wrote:

Wang Junxia broke the 3000m & 5000m world records EN ROUTE to shattering the 10,000m world record. Think about that for a moment.

Yup. This.

que dicen??? wrote:

Flo-Jo's 100 meter record is the most obvious to me. She set the 200 around the same time so that one tags along as well, but her 100 race is beyond obvious.

You know what, though? I still get chills when I watch that race. Juice or no juice, she was the best. Better than Bolt, even.

mens

800 pre kipketer

womens

100