What is the most doped up record on the books?

Women's 400

On the men's side, possibly a tie between 100m WR and 26.2 WR.

Women's marathon!

A white lady ran 3 minutes faster than every African who are supposedly genetically superior???

Most doped record of all time

gdrdudes wrote:

Women's 400

along with the 100m and 200m

Women's 10k

Wang Junxia

How can you refute the 10K? Doped beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I also doubt there's been a single throwing event since the mid-60's where the winner hasn't taken steroids at some point in their career.

Little doubt that the same applies for the majority of starters in the Men's 100 either.

The question is, are any of the records NOT doped?

Maybe the women's 800.

Jarmila has the 800 record and she had the 400 record at the same time.

That's a pretty dopey combination of records.

bobblehead radcliffe

An easier question to answer is what record is clean?

None.

Lance's 7 tour victories

Or

McGuire's/Sosa's HR records (*)

It's a 7 way tie

Every women's WR from 100M to 3000M

Bonds HR record

Loot wrote:

It's a 7 way tie

Every women's WR from 100M to 3000M

Bonds HR record

Roger Clemens' last 3 Cy Youngs.

I'll go with women's 800 - even my innocent 14 year old self could tell kratoch was not an undrugged woman.

I believe only one person since has come within a second of her 1:53.

But yeah - probably every single woman's record is from drugs. Unbelievable how this sport is crapped out.

I probably won't even go to pro meets anymore - who needs that kind of dispiriting crapola. I'll watch distance events on the TV, but no sprints or throws. Absurd. Such a beautiful sport, wrecked.

Star wrote:

Maybe the women's 800.

Jarmila has the 800 record and she had the 400 record at the same time.

That's a pretty dopey combination of records.

+1 It's an absolute disgrace that she still has the record. The most blatantly obvious doper who never got caught. Looked identical to a steroid abusing female bodybuilder.

Yep, agree.

Although technically I guess that qualifies as awards, not records. Nevertheless any Clemens records, though, yes.

The specter of uncertainty haunts all of athletics. There is some anecdotal evidence, strong for some substances, that doping destroys long term health and shaves years off life. Maybe someday some enterprising researchers will compile mortality statistics of the top performers and then further informed speculation can be made.

That having been said:

100m, 200m women: Florence Griffith Joyner

400m womens: Marita Koch

She looked like a man in her prime. Literally, like one of my friends. East Germans and the Russians known to dope ruthlessly, because they were practical and ruthless. Witness her now, post-menopausal, looking like any other fat old lady. Galaxies of difference.

10,000m womens: Wang Junxia

Marathon: Paula Radcliffe. Ummmm...

Those were the low-lying fruit. Now, equally, for any other women's records and all the men's records, from sprints to long distance, is up in the air. If we want to put ourselves in a sour mood and be very inquisitive and skeptical, PEDs should and would always be involved. If any of the male sprinters or distance runners were doped, then realistically, every last one of them could be doped.

Sigh... every year there are like two or three threads on this topic. Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

The East German"women's" Olympic swim team.

Kim_Putnam_Eagan wrote:

400m womens: Marita Koch

She looked like a man in her prime. Literally, like one of my friends. East Germans and the Russians known to dope ruthlessly, because they were practical and ruthless. Witness her now, post-menopausal, looking like any other fat old lady. Galaxies of difference.

She certainly doped, but she didn't look like a man then (she looked very attractive and surprisingly slight), and she doesn't look fat today (unless anything not "ripped" = fat)