What is your opinion on Steve Magness?

c'mon dan wrote:

actually isn't it well-documented that he ran major HS mileage? hence why some people think he "flamed out" somewhat in college?

doubtful dan wrote:

Doubt it

Moron

ffdddfffddd wrote:

Doubtful Dan obviously didn't read Magness' blog (his high school one). I did. It was a really enjoyable read.

Moron

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. You must have asked whether Galen was clean, right? So the fact that you didn't bring him up in your post seems sorta suspicious.

doubtful dan wrote:

c'mon dan wrote:

actually isn't it well-documented that he ran major HS mileage? hence why some people think he "flamed out" somewhat in college?

Moron

moron

plus this interesting read

HonestThief wrote:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4039288

moron

plus this interesting read

http://www.runblogrun.com/2014/05/want-to-run-in-college-this-is-what-it-takes-steve-magness-of-the-university-of-houston-by-cait-choc.html

Moron^2

How many times are you going to double down on stupidity? Re-read my original post, for your own sake. I only included that one sentence from "dating myself" for a very, very obvious reason.

I'm sure he's a very nice person, but he's no better and no worse that most college coaches. His teams finish mid-pack at regionals, he'll get a guy to nationals every once in a while, and while some of his runners progress, none are running outstanding times.

My issue with coaches like Magness are that they focus too much on the science side of things without considering that their athletes are more than just energy systems. Personally I'd prefer a coach like Gags. Someone who has a basic understanding of the science and training theory but is a master motivator.

doubtful dan wrote:

HonestThief wrote:http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4039288

moron

plus this interesting read

http://www.runblogrun.com/2014/05/want-to-run-in-college-this-is-what-it-takes-steve-magness-of-the-university-of-houston-by-cait-choc.html

Moron^2

How many times are you going to double down on stupidity? Re-read my original post, for your own sake. I only included that one sentence from "dating myself" for a very, very obvious reason.

Got it. Still like throwing the word moron around though. Moron.

anacondarunner wrote:

Thanks for the comprehensive reply. You must have asked whether Galen was clean, right? So the fact that you didn't bring him up in your post seems sorta suspicious.

Amy Begley - Clean

Kara Goucher - Clean

Jordan Hasay - Clean

Leo Manzano - Clean

Nike Symmonds - Clean

Evan Jager - Clean

Chris Derrick - Clean

Ben True - Clean

I actually didn't mention Galen to him in terms of doping. However, I mentioned Galen in terms of how he is as a person. I asked a lot about how pro runners/coaches are including Symmonds, Farah, Salazar, and a many more. Don't try to read into it too much.

I can't mention if anyone is dirty on a message board. There is mud in the water, of course, but you can sleep at night knowing the ones listed above are clean. Many more are, but those a just a few I remember talking about while on an easy run with him and a few UH runners. I didn't have much time to ask so I rambled off the top of my head. It's not like I have infinite knowledge from a few minutes on the topic.

It would have been fun to make a list and ask, but the few times when we met I wasn't exactly worried about asking about doping.

I've met Steve several times, as I've run into him at memorial park in Houston a few times. Always approachable and nice to me, and I'm a nobody.

To put things in perspective, Magness has had national qualifiers and 1st round qualifiers on 20-30% scholarships and all-conference walk ons at a school with almost zero distance history in the last 30 years.

That's not easy to do, regardless of who you are in the non-distance friendly confines of Houston Texas.

So all dopers check in with Steve first? How in the world does he know what anyone does behind closed doors, especially athletes he doesn't coach? I highly doubt everyone on the above list is 100% clean.