What pro sport is most likely fixed ?

fleeced by the networks.... wrote:

The NFL even sets up the schedule in a "fixed" way and nobody ever thinks about it. The teams with the poorest records play all the other teams with the poorest records from the previous year. The only games they don't control are the division games they have to play. The divisions are now so small, a team like Cleveland only has to play 6 division games. The other 10 games will be against all poor teams. ]

Every division plays another division in the other conference (AFC vs NFC). So you are wrong that there are only 6 games that are predetermined. There are 10.

And while there are a few teams that are predictably good or bad from year to year, the majority of them move around quite a bit. So last year's good team or last year's bad team might be completely different in the following season.

Obviously nobody will bother reading this.

14 was pretty crazy.

"Football isn't fixed. That is ridiculous. Every game has many miscalls or missed calls. People need to watch the NFL the entire season and not watch one game and think it is fixed. Leave it to Americans to overreact because they see one thing and don't do any research. The research here requires watching games all season for several years. Better call off work and flip the tube to NFL Films for a few days."

Your assumption that this one game is what sparked all these responses or this whole conversation is as ignorant as your assertion that we Americans are overreacting.

I have actually given up on watching the NFL because my dad has been sarcastically compaining about it being fixed for years. I have had many many "Whoa?" moments where I can't help but feel like the err or mishap or pure luck of what I was witnessing was not enough to explain the incident. A prime candidate for "fixed" moments in the NFL would be when a defense recovers a fumble and the offense turns it back over on the VERY NEXT play with a terribly thrown interception or a fumble right back. (No, I did NOT say every time the ball is turned over on back to back downs it is fixed.)

The responses on this thread referring to the subtle fixing are spot on. There is a business to controlling some of who wins, when, and why. It may not be as clear as "Commissioner X knows Team Y is going to win the Super Bowl as early as October," but it sure as hell exists.

Nike, Salazar, and USATF

You are mentally ill, not even joking a little bit. You think PLAYERS and teams are taking orders from the NFL office to throw games and that no one has ever come forward about it!! Complete and utter insanity in a league where a mistake or two can cost you your career overnight.

NFL officiating has struggled with the increasing complexity of the NFL rulebook, but I have never watched a game and thought it was fixed. College football I have, but that may have been my own bias as a fan. I'm not a fan of a specific NFL team, just like to watch good football.

The problem on Sunday was primarily caused by the NFL's policy of using all-star crews in the playoffs. The crew working that game had never worked a game together before and it showed in how badly that call was handled.

sdhhjdfsghjdfs wrote:

NFL officiating has struggled with the increasing complexity of the NFL rulebook, but I have never watched a game and thought it was fixed.

You must have missed the game where they called a bunch of penalties in a row including taking away two touchdown passes until the team had to settle for a field goal. They didn't want that team to go up by 3 touchdowns. I think it was a Cleveland/ Kansas City game a few years ago.

Didn't all the CROOKS in the banking industry try to tell us how COMPLEX everything had become and that is why they shouldn't be replaced?

This COMPLEXITY that you talk about is what ruined football for me to watch.

Vegas McBet wrote:

Anything that has voting and "subjective calls by officials"

Ice skating and dancing

gymnastics

those new skiing events and snow boarding

diving

THIS IS THE ANSWER.

I have recently become suspicious of Legends Football League officiating.

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vhjcvjh wrote:

Agreed. Definitely soccer. A foul in the penalty box means an almost certain goal in a traditionally low scoring sport. Calling or not calling a foul in the box carries enormous weight, and therefore, is most open to corruption and fixing.

While there have been a lot of match fixing scandals (someone else went ahead and did my research for me on that on), referees calling penalties is one of the smallest effects. Stefan Szymanski, economist, did an analysis of penalties and their overall effect on soccer matches and found that overall teams score just about as many goals as they were expected to whether or not a penalty was given.

I would imagine that part of the reason is that repeatedly calling questionable penalties is way too obvious and the corruption would be caught quickly.

The real reason that soccer has so many fixing scandals is that sports betting has fewer controls than in the US, so there is more money riding on the outcomes.

Boxing has some major issues.

genuine random a hole wrote:

John Clendon wrote:

Thoroughbred Horse racing...no lie.

The thoroughbreds can't hold a candle to the buggies.

No doubt , harness is so blatant . If I had the speed to run back to the cashier in the last 400 yards ; I'd demand a refund on my 2 buck bet !

The jockeys pulled the reigns so hard , they almost decapitated the win , place , show horses .

But , running is fake too .

Question is what pro sport is NOT fixed. I think almost all are to some extent, be it point shaving, subjective calls or massaging the game to enhance entertainment or bookies pocket books.

I say almost all.....I can't find evidence that the PGA is rigged. The FedEx cup is designed for artificial 'excitement' but at least there's nothing hidden about it.

Golf is also unusual as it breaks the rule that the more $ the more crookery.

Think about it...its PRO sport ie. the primary purpose is to maximize revenue. Businessmen simply manipulate emotive fans. We know it happens, but don't care - up to a point. The trick is to find that point and not cross the line.

Definitely Basketball!!

I lost a lot of money betting on the Washington Generals for several years. I kept thinking, they know what there opponent is going to do, they studied the video, they just couldn't execute when it counted.

bigloser wrote:

Definitely Basketball!!

I lost a lot of money betting on the Washington Generals for several years. I kept thinking, they know what there opponent is going to do, they studied the video, they just couldn't execute when it counted.

That's hilarious! Well played.