I know it depends on what they need that year, but assuming a good xc season would say a 4:21 mile and a 9:35 two mile look better than a 4:23 mile but a 929 two mile? maybe those times aren't comparable...anyway give me some times you think are comparable and which one would be more desirable?
The mile and two mile don't match up. More like 4:28 and 9:35 or 4:30 and 9:29
Those times aren't going to get much in terms of looks. I know 1:52 / 4:08 guys not getting phone calls.
Maybe NAIA or JC? But the a few second don't matter.
The Donger wrote:
Those times aren't going to get much in terms of looks. I know 1:52 / 4:08 guys not getting phone calls.
Maybe NAIA or JC? But the a few second don't matter.
Is their phone not plugged in?
Try walking on at a junior college. Or maybe a running club?
Yup.
Because college races are longer, we weight the 2 mile more heavily. I would take a 9:20 two miler over a 4:05 miler every time.
The combo is what matters. If you have a slow 3200 compared to your 1600, it looks bad
A real college coach wrote:
Because college races are longer, we weight the 2 mile more heavily. I would take a 9:20 two miler over a 4:05 miler every time.
High schoolers run 1600m; college kids run 1500m.
He is talking about the 8K in college - 5K in HS - 3200M time is what more colleges care about when looking at distance runners
The mile, definitely the mile.
Everyone knows that college coaches care more about the mile. It's just how things have always been done. You're young, one day you'll understand.
Those times are absolutely awful though. Is there a Division 4 nowadays? Maybe look into that.
Hingle McCringleberry wrote:
The Donger wrote:Those times aren't going to get much in terms of looks. I know 1:52 / 4:08 guys not getting phone calls.
Maybe NAIA or JC? But the a few second don't matter.
Is their phone not plugged in?
Your response is gold btw
^ Doesn't make it any less true. 4:20-4:28 or whatever just isn't going to cut it. It won't even be able to walk on top D2 programs.
Its a great time, kids are just faster now that's all.
Try JC or NAIA and get faster. Like I said I know a kid that ran 1:52/4:08 in CA that had to walk on and didn't get recruited. Good luck.
The Donger wrote:
^ Doesn't make it any less true. 4:20-4:28 or whatever just isn't going to cut it. It won't even be able to walk on top D2 programs.
Its a great time, kids are just faster now that's all.
Try JC or NAIA and get faster. Like I said I know a kid that ran 1:52/4:08 in CA that had to walk on and didn't get recruited. Good luck.
Is that the kid who ran for Andrew Hill, San Jose in 2013?
That would be Miguel Vasquez, he goes to UCR and I recall him being committed before his track season was over so I don't know if he was a recruit or not
I would say as a college coach I look for what you do in XC and on the track! If you run 16:20 in XC and you can run a 4:22 mile, then you have good range and potential to improve with that foot speed. If you are a 16:30 kid who has run 9:50 and 4:34, then that's not that as appealing to me.
The Donger wrote:
^ Doesn't make it any less true. 4:20-4:28 or whatever just isn't going to cut it. It won't even be able to walk on top D2 programs.
Its a great time, kids are just faster now that's all.
Try JC or NAIA and get faster. Like I said I know a kid that ran 1:52/4:08 in CA that had to walk on and didn't get recruited. Good luck.
Sounds like the issue was his grades not his talent.
Mile!
There are hundreds of runners that college coaches must look at. My PR's were just sub 10, 4:40 and low 17's when I applied for my competitive D3 college and my coach enthusiastically took me on board. You will have to do some of the work in this case. Unless you're running unbelievably fast to the point where you're getting national recognition, do not expect a letter/phone call outside your local state.
The Donger wrote:
Try JC or NAIA and get faster. Like I said I know a kid that ran 1:52/4:08 in CA that had to walk on and didn't get recruited. Good luck.
Luckily, you have some other agenda because your recruiting advice is complete crap.
A 4:08 1600 would have been the 15th fastest time in the nation in 2014.
If a kid isn't getting recruited off of 4:08, it is because of other issues not because of his times.