cccvrfvrfr wrote:
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Lalala HIIT is alright, but not meant for distance runners
Crazy troll
cccvrfvrfr wrote:
oh realyyy now wrote:haha lol
Lalala HIIT is alright, but not meant for distance runners
Crazy troll
. "As world records continue to move lower and the marathon goes under 2 hours the FUTURE of training will progress more and more AWAY from mileage and TOWARDS high intensity training. It's just that most coaches don't have the BALLS to really experiment across a long period of time with high quality and most distance runners don't have the PATIENCE. I will say as a coach that distance runners are the WORST group of athletes to coach"
What you think AlSal is doing? Levins went from 180 mile weeks to high quality
I would guess that many of the elites were taking supplements to speed up the recovery from high intensity training. Every body has a breaking point.
Tim Ferriss did a podcast with one of the main scientists advocating HIIT. It's a good listen.
http://tim.blog/2017/01/23/the-one-minute-workout-designed-by-scientists-dr-martin-gibala/
At no point did Mr. Gibala claim that this was about coaching elites. He basically said that mixing up the effort was good for you. So for a sedentary person, walking and jogging/striding alternate lampposts might be their HIIT.
Also, for people with maybe one hour for lunch or 45min on the away to/from work, you wanted a workout (with warmup and cooldown) which could fit into 25min or so.
Now for the really funny bit: his favourite protocol would be 3 x 5 min or 5x3min with 1min. Classic 5000m training of the type distance runners do on their Tuesday nights all over the planet for decades. He calls this "HIIT" and thinks it's new. To be fair, he doesn't come from running or cycling. It comes from testing what works on non-athletes.
eurodonkey wrote:
Tim Ferriss did a podcast with one of the main scientists advocating HIIT. It's a good listen.
http://tim.blog/2017/01/23/the-one-minute-workout-designed-by-scientists-dr-martin-gibala/At no point did Mr. Gibala claim that this was about coaching elites. He basically said that mixing up the effort was good for you. So for a sedentary person, walking and jogging/striding alternate lampposts might be their HIIT.
Also, for people with maybe one hour for lunch or 45min on the away to/from work, you wanted a workout (with warmup and cooldown) which could fit into 25min or so.
Now for the really funny bit: his favourite protocol would be 3 x 5 min or 5x3min with 1min. Classic 5000m training of the type distance runners do on their Tuesday nights all over the planet for decades. He calls this "HIIT" and thinks it's new. To be fair, he doesn't come from running or cycling. It comes from testing what works on non-athletes.
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gibale wrote:
eurodonkey wrote:Tim Ferriss did a podcast with one of the main scientists advocating HIIT. It's a good listen.
http://tim.blog/2017/01/23/the-one-minute-workout-designed-by-scientists-dr-martin-gibala/At no point did Mr. Gibala claim that this was about coaching elites. He basically said that mixing up the effort was good for you. So for a sedentary person, walking and jogging/striding alternate lampposts might be their HIIT.
Also, for people with maybe one hour for lunch or 45min on the away to/from work, you wanted a workout (with warmup and cooldown) which could fit into 25min or so.
Now for the really funny bit: his favourite protocol would be 3 x 5 min or 5x3min with 1min. Classic 5000m training of the type distance runners do on their Tuesday nights all over the planet for decades. He calls this "HIIT" and thinks it's new. To be fair, he doesn't come from running or cycling. It comes from testing what works on non-athletes.
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juju on that hiit
hiit is great
I know of a high school team that uses Tabatas. Their kids always plateau at the section meet!
I have not seen how it helps anyone long term.
Since when do distance runners not do interval training? Is everyone here mad? Do you think you just run 100mpw and then run 13:00 for 5k?
HIITson wrote:
But whats your view on Sebastian Coe's Method low mileage more speed?
That is a myth. They never counted the recovery miles Coe did!
Doclove wrote:
HIITson wrote:But whats your view on Sebastian Coe's Method low mileage more speed?
He was a middle distance runner and still ran 70 mpw
I assume that Insanity guy won the Olmypics if it works so well
Try 100 mpw.
800ftw. wrote:
Since when do distance runners not do interval training? Is everyone here mad? Do you think you just run 100mpw and then run 13:00 for 5k?
When you're over 50 with a history of chronic injuries. Interval training is good for older cats, but you better have good genetics, a low injury history and probably be a flyweight to pull it off on a regular basis...who would have thought.
Crusty Old Runner wrote:
800ftw. wrote:Since when do distance runners not do interval training? Is everyone here mad? Do you think you just run 100mpw and then run 13:00 for 5k?
When you're over 50 with a history of chronic injuries. Interval training is good for older cats, but you better have good genetics, a low injury history and probably be a flyweight to pull it off on a regular basis...who would have thought.
Very true
HIITson wrote:
I still wonder why distance runners don't use H.I.I.T considering the great results you get from it.
It's just short term, you cannot do hiit forever.
sfeh0r=30r wrote:
HIITson wrote:
I still wonder why distance runners don't use H.I.I.T considering the great results you get from it.
It's just short term, you cannot do hiit forever.
Thats correct!Real H.I.I.T can`t be done for a longer period. I use it sometimes to "wake up " the body. But one can also think
of shorter maxVO2-intervals as a mild form of H.I.I.T that the body can take week after week and improve from it.
hiit is the best
fnvornvrn wrote:
hiit is the best
It certainly is the best excercise for older people. ?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=keywee&mccr=domdesk&kwp_0=619189&kwp_4=2200908&kwp_1=919655&referer=http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8581110There are a few great podcasts out there with interviews of high school coaches that implement HIIT into their teams’ workouts. The Run Faster Podcast & The Ben Rosario show interview Dr. Jeff Messer & Doug Soles. Both are very successful high school coaches that have different definitions of HIIT and use it differently in their programs. Coach Soles’ approach is the one described in much of this thread.