I think Centro, even before Mo--and definitely before Galen.
A lot of guys have run fast times in their careers but few know what it's like to claim multiple medals in their event. Centro's done it pretty young, and has that natural talent for championship running that guys like Webb (with all his achievements) would probably trade for in a second. Mental and physical. Some guys have one in bounties, but it's rare to see both balanced mental and physical faculties in a runner. Sometimes Kiprop even surprises me with his changing mental state and apparent 'giving up' in DL races where he wasn't going to win. Aside from Galen's aberrant silver medal, he's more of a time-trialer. I just don't think he has the instincts of his teammates.
Ultimately, Centro always seems to put it together when it counts. Yes, he's dropped out and had sub-par performances, but he basically winged a 4th place at the Olympics after a potentially season-changing late injury. And his bronze in Daegu and silver in Moscow show that he's as good as anybody when he reaches the Finals healthy. I think Centro will end up with more medals than Farah for his career, and I think that'll piss off a lot of ppl here!
Who is the most talented runner in NOP?
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Mary Cain
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Um, ever heard of Jordan Hasay?!?
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ability over hard work wrote:
Ultimately, Centro always seems to put it together when it counts. Yes, he's dropped out and had sub-par performances,
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This is interesting and exciting to think about, assuming optimistic premises. With things being equal, then Centro has championship experience and prowess under his belt, indeed. A jump start that bodes well. Ahead of schedule with his career "homework" compared to all manners and diversity of American running stars past and present, as well as his two most exemplar program mates you mention. If we set aside Farah's EA genetic assets, one concern is that rupp and Farrah's achievements were critically founded on being arguably the primary protégés of Al Sal. That's not going to change either since their careers are far from finished.
Who can say what will happen. But assuming optimism and that the usual mishaps of milers can be held in check, centro may very well surpass all u.s. Milers when it's all said and done.
Steve Scott, Sydnee maree, Alan Webb,
Jim Ryun, gave Jennings, Bernard lagat.
You guys can come up with more names.
He may well surpass the great white milers of history. The down unders, the across the Atlantics. Even the North Africans and the Kenyans.
Strange as I'm writing this on the bed my right inner calf is starting to pull slightly/spasm. -
Salazar... duhhhhh
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I'm gonna go with the guy who has 2 Olympic golds, 3 world championship golds, and has pr's of 3:28, 12:53, 26:46 and 2:08
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...you mean the african-brit who regularly ducks competition, even though he is not a UofO Duck?
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I agree with Mo and Cain... people forget that Mo Farah at 13-14yrs old was killing club runners in XC and was running at a pretty high level.
Mary Cain is a freak. However, Galen Rupp is massively talented as well. I will agree that Centro is perhaps more talented than Rupp. I think Centro had a faster 3200m than Rupp in high school? Check out his bio, http://www.usatf.org/Athlete-Bios/Galen-Rupp.aspx -
Who fvcking cares. The nop is just a bunch of doped up losers.
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RioTokyo wrote:
If we set aside Farah's EA genetic assets.
So, take away Mo's genetic talent and others then become more talented than him. You're not the brightest. -
jcjk wrote:
I think Centro had a faster 3200m than Rupp in high school? Check out his bio, http://www.usatf.org/Athlete-Bios/Galen-Rupp.aspx
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RioTokyo wrote:
This is interesting and exciting to think about, assuming optimistic premises. With things being equal, then Centro has championship experience and prowess under his belt, indeed. A jump start that bodes well. Ahead of schedule with his career "homework" compared to all manners and diversity of American running stars past and present, as well as his two most exemplar program mates you mention. If we set aside Farah's EA genetic assets, one concern is that rupp and Farrah's achievements were critically founded on being arguably the primary protégés of Al Sal. That's not going to change either since their careers are far from finished.
Who can say what will happen. But assuming optimism and that the usual mishaps of milers can be held in check, centro may very well surpass all u.s. Milers when it's all said and done.
Steve Scott, Sydnee maree, Alan Webb,
Jim Ryun, gave Jennings, Bernard lagat.
You guys can come up with more names.
He may well surpass the great white milers of history. The down unders, the across the Atlantics. Even the North Africans and the Kenyans.
Strange as I'm writing this on the bed my right inner calf is starting to pull slightly/spasm.
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Blitzplay wrote:
RioTokyo wrote:
If we set aside Farah's EA genetic assets.
So, take away Mo's genetic talent and others then become more talented than him. You're not the brightest.
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jcjk wrote:
I agree with Mo and Cain... people forget that Mo Farah at 13-14yrs old was killing club runners in XC and was running at a pretty high level.
Mary Cain is a freak. However, Galen Rupp is massively talented as well. I will agree that Centro is perhaps more talented than Rupp. I think Centro had a faster 3200m than Rupp in high school? Check out his bio, http://www.usatf.org/Athlete-Bios/Galen-Rupp.aspx
according to that : "Third in mile (3:48.44) and 3,000m (7:57.36) at 2012 USA Indoors" galen rupp holds the indoor mile record by .01 seconds, im assuming it was a 1500m but its a bad typo -
I would put Farah first as he was a prodigy of sorts, but didn't have the most professional attitude until he went to NOP and then produced massive success. Farah has physical AND mental talent -- he's great at tactics. Rupp has great physical talent as he was also a prodigy, maybe a little less than Farah, but he doesn't have Farah's tactical skill. Centro was a very good high school runner but not a record breaker. But he possesses excellent natural tactical smarts, enough for him to medal twice in an event that demands it more than Rupp's events. Physically, he doesn't seem as talented as Rupp or Farah as he just can't keep up in fast, time-trial Diamond League races. Guys like Kiprop and Souleiman are much more physically talented than Centro.
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Les wrote:
I would put Farah first as he was a prodigy of sorts, but didn't have the most professional attitude until he went to NOP and then produced massive success. Farah has physical AND mental talent -- he's great at tactics. Rupp has great physical talent as he was also a prodigy, maybe a little less than Farah, but he doesn't have Farah's tactical skill. Centro was a very good high school runner but not a record breaker. But he possesses excellent natural tactical smarts, enough for him to medal twice in an event that demands it more than Rupp's events. Physically, he doesn't seem as talented as Rupp or Farah as he just can't keep up in fast, time-trial Diamond League races. Guys like Kiprop and Souleiman are much more physically talented than Centro.
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Um, ever heard of Tegan Sotlof???
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isdodi wrote:
Les wrote:
I would put Farah first as he was a prodigy of sorts, but didn't have the most professional attitude until he went to NOP and then produced massive success. Farah has physical AND mental talent -- he's great at tactics. Rupp has great physical talent as he was also a prodigy, maybe a little less than Farah, but he doesn't have Farah's tactical skill. Centro was a very good high school runner but not a record breaker. But he possesses excellent natural tactical smarts, enough for him to medal twice in an event that demands it more than Rupp's events. Physically, he doesn't seem as talented as Rupp or Farah as he just can't keep up in fast, time-trial Diamond League races. Guys like Kiprop and Souleiman are much more physically talented than Centro.
Farah does not have good tactics. He is just faster than every one else in a sit and kick race.
That's not true at all. Gebremeskel had a faster last lap in the Olympic 5k and at least Gebrihiwet had a faster last lap in this recent World Championships. Mo positions himself the best coming into the last lap -
Yeah, Farah is a master at controlling the end stage of races. Even when guys keep him from the lead he still manages to control the race by his sheer presence. It's not just about who runs the fastest last lap as other guys like Gebremeskel are just as fast yet don't have the hardware Farah does. No, he's not as good as guys like Bekele or Gebrselassie who were so talented they could just run away from fields, but I think tactically he's the best long distance track runner since Viren.
