$ 15 an hour

BigDaddyWooWoo wrote:

I worked at a movie theater as a projectionist when I was

seventeen years old. I made $3.25 an hour. I didn't bitch. I was just happy to have some spending money.

I bet you did bitch.

You seem like the sort of person who whines and moans a lot.

I know this guy is trolling but....

I think very few people have a clue what folks in the military do. Many just think we all just go to the range and shoot all day or other soldiering activities. Most of the time our job is very boring and can be very repetitive in a larger sense while day to day is not repetitive at all and sometimes haphazard.

I also know a lot of folks who came in the army with degrees both officer and enlisted. I know even more who got degrees while in the service, sometimes 2 or 3 degrees (mostly online).

Also, most undergrad degrees serve no other purpose but to make a university more $$$ I've seen countless folks with degrees in history, biology, or sociology/psychology not doing anything with their degrees. I saw many folks with these degrees while I was a trainer as either fellow trainers or call center employees.

I know the norm here is to poo poo on anyone not making 6 figures for a lack of trying but someone has to work at these fast food places, someone has to be a shift manager, and if you raise the worker's pay then you have to raise the shift manager's pay. If you do this then the guy working in the office building across the street is making less than the shift manager at mcdonalds so then his wage is raised..and so on and so on until the cost of labor across every industry skyrockets.

I do believe someone at mcdonalds should be paid a living wage. If you work 40 hrs a week, I don't care what job you have you should be able to find a place to live. If not then the fault either lies with the lack of a living wage or the lack of affordable housing.

Alan

Where I grew up, mcdonalds paid over $20 an hour at current exchange rates.

Big Dick wrote:

Giant Johnson wrote:

So your message to the average guy with no higher education or family support system is: "you don't deserve to make enough money to live". What other jobs are people like that supposed to get if they leave fast food? It's like you expect them to strap on their job helmets, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land; where jobs grow on jobbies. You're a fool and colossal asshat.

so if you're uneducated it's fast food or nothing? I'll refrain from the name calling, you're too easy of a target

Also, "uneducated" does not have to be a permanent condition. We were all uneducated at some point. You don't necessarily need a formal classroom education to advance, either. As a real estate developer, I work with lots of construction guys. Many of the higher paid construction guys (project managers with office based jobs) started out as general laborers with high school diplomas and worked their way up the ranks. Hell, the person who runs the property management division of my firm started out working at the front desk of an apartment complex, and now oversees the operations of a 5,000 unit portfolio.

I feel like people who work on the floor at McDonald's for 5+ years must go out of their way to avoid picking up marketable skills. How can you work full time in fast food for years and not even pick up enough to BS your way through an interview for something better? You've proven that you can handle a fast paced, stressful work environment. You've shown that you can interact with customers. You've learned all about mass production food service. And you can't push your way into a better situation?

RunningArt2004, what do you do for the Army, if you don't mind my asking?