Talk about having it rough. That's the amount Sosa was fined for leaving the season finale early.
I'm a huge Cub fan...but that's just sickening to know guys are making that much money in a day for playing baseball. And worse of all...guys still bitch because the feel they deserve more money. All execpt A-rod.
A person earns what his/her boss deems he/she is worth.
My guess is that you are overpaid.
luv2run wrote:
A person earns what his/her boss deems he/she is worth.
My guess is that you are overpaid.
so you are essentially saying that teachers are worth nothing?
In sports your boss can only pay you what they make at the gate and thru tv.
Hockey is in trouble....
if it wasn't for the TV revenue most of these guys would make less than half of what they are getting paid...
No, but they are paid nothing. She didn't say anything about what merit.
wow, at that rate i could work for 40 straight days and then retire comfortably
luv2run, you can't put a price on what i do. my job currently is staying home to take care of my newborn daugther...i get paid nothing.
there always has to be a smartass here. it's nice to meet ya.
Put Sosa's pay in perspective with other pro athletes.
Here is a list of the top 50 pro athletes (2003 numbers) total income. Look at the last column to see their pay per game. The figures shown here assume that the athlete played in every regular season game (highly unlikely). Assume 162 games in baseball, 82 games in basketball, and 16 games in football. I did not calculate the pay per (game) figure for golfers, race car drivers or tennis players because I do not know how many tournaments or races they competed in during 2003.
You can see that Sosa ranks near the bottom of this list. The list is sorted from highest to lowest TOTAL income for 2003 (not by salary & winnings). Some of these guys have huge endoresment deals. The $ per game figure does NOT include endorsement/appearance fees. Only salary and winnings were used to calculate the $/game figure.
Peyton Manning has the is the single biggest $ per game figure of all these athletes, while Tiger Woods has the single largest TOTAL income for the year (2003). Ain't America great? No wonder why pro athletes come across as such big a-holes a lot ofthe time.
Enjoy!
Rank Sport Athlete Team Salary & Winnings Endorsements & Appearance Fees Total Annual Income $ Per Game/Match
1 Golf Tiger Woods Golf $6,673,413 $70,000,000 $76,673,413 ?
2 Basketball Shaquille O’Neal Los Angeles Lakers $26,517,858 $14,000,000 $40,517,858 $323,389
3 Basketball LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers $4,018,920 $35,000,000 $39,018,920 $49,011
4 Football Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts $26,900,000 $9,500,000 $36,400,000 $1,681,250
5 Basketball Kevin Garnett Minnesota Timberwolves $29,000,000 $7,000,000 $36,000,000 $353,659
6 Boxing Oscar De La Hoya Boxing $30,000,000 $2,000,000 $32,000,000 ?
7 Tennis Andre Agassi Tennis $2,530,929 $24,500,000 $27,030,929 ?
8 Basketball Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers $13,498,000 $12,000,000 $25,498,000 $164,610
9 Baseball Derek Jeter New York Yankees $19,000,000 $6,000,000 $25,000,000 $117,284
10 Basketball Grant Hill Orlando Magic $13,279,250 $11,000,000 $24,279,250 $161,942
11 Basketball Vince Carter Toronto Raptors $16,000,000 $8,000,000 $24,000,000 $195,122
12 Baseball Manny Ramirez Boston Red Sox $23,700,000 $250,000 $23,950,000 $146,296
13 Auto Racing Dale Earnhardt Jr. Auto Racing $7,081,807 $15,000,000 $22,081,807 ?
14 Baseball Mike Piazza New York Mets $15,000,000 $6,500,000 $21,500,000 $92,593
15 Basketball Tracy McGrady Orlando Magic $13,279,500 $8,000,000 $21,279,500 $161,945
16 Baseball Alex Rodrigurez New York Yankees $17,000,000 $4,000,000 $21,000,000 $104,938
17 Basketball Allen Iverson Philadelphia 76ers $13,500,000 $7,000,000 $20,500,000 $164,634
18 Baseball Sammy Sosa Chicago Cubs $16,000,000 $4,000,000 $20,000,000 $98,765
19 Baseball Barry Bonds San Francisco Giants $15,000,000 $4,000,000 $19,000,000 $92,593
20 Baseball Carlos Delgado Toronto Blue Jays $18,500,000 $250,000 $18,750,000 $114,198
21 Auto Racing Jeff Gordon Auto Racing $6,622,002 $12,000,000 $18,622,002 ?
22 Basketball Anfernee Hardaway New York Knicks $13,500,000 $4,250,000 $17,750,000 $164,634
23 Tennis Serena Williams Tennis $2,504,871 $15,000,000 $17,504,871 ?
24 Baseball Jason Giambi New York Yankees $14,000,000 $3,500,000 $17,500,000 $86,420
25 Basketball Rasheed Wallace Detroit Pistons $16,990,000 $300,000 $17,290,000 $207,195
26 Cycling Lance Armstrong Cycling $460,000 $16,500,000 $16,960,000 ?
27 Basketball Chris Webber Sacramento Kings $15,937,500 $1,000,000 $16,937,500 $194,360
28 Basketball Andre Miller Denver Nuggets $16,400,000 $250,000 $16,650,000 $200,000
29 Football Lavar Arrington Washington Redskins $16,040,000 $500,000 $16,540,000 $1,002,500
30 Baseball Shawn Green Los Angeles Dodgers $16,000,000 $500,000 $16,500,000 $98,765
30 Baseball Mike Mussina New York Yankees $16,000,000 $500,000 $16,500,000 $98,765
32 Basketball Allan Houston New York Knicks $15,937,500 $500,000 $16,437,500 $194,360
33 Basketball Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs $12,676,125 $3,500,000 $16,176,125 $154,587
34 Basketball Jason Kidd New Jersey Nets $13,152,000 $3,000,000 $16,152,000 $160,390
35 Boxing Roy Jones Jr. Boxing $15,000,000 $1,000,000 $16,000,000 ?
36 Golf Phil Mickelson Golf $1,828,031 $14,000,000 $15,828,031 ?
37 Football Grant Wistrom Seattle Seahawks $15,500,000 $100,000 $15,600,000 $968,750
38 Basketball Antoine Walker Dallas Mavericks $13,500,000 $2,000,000 $15,500,000 $164,634
38 Baseball Kevin Brown New York Yankees $15,000,000 $500,000 $15,500,000 $92,593
40 Basketball Lamar Odom Miami Heat $15,000,000 $375,000 $15,375,000 $182,927
41 Tennis Venus Williams Tennis $1,126,555 $14,000,000 $15,126,555 ?
42 Basketball Stephon Marbury New York Knicks $13,500,000 $1,500,000 $15,000,000 $164,634
43 Basketball Damon Stoudamire Portland Trail Blazers $14,375,000 $500,000 $14,875,000 $175,305
44 Basketball Ray Allen Seattle SuperSonics $13,500,000 $1,000,000 $14,500,000 $164,634
44 Basketball Antonio McDyess Phoenix Suns $13,500,000 $1,000,000 $14,500,000 $164,634
44 Baseball Chipper Jones Atlanta Braves $14,000,000 $500,000 $14,500,000 $86,420
47 Football Donovan McNabb Philadelphia Eagles $11,000,000 $3,000,000 $14,000,000 $687,500
47 Basketball Shareef Abdur-Rahim Portland Trail Blazers $13,500,000 $500,000 $14,000,000 $164,634
47 Basketball Latrell Sprewell Minnesota Timberwolves $13,500,000 $500,000 $14,000,000 $164,634
50 Basketball Michael Finley Dallas Mavericks $13,281,250 $500,000 $13,781,250 $161,966
Being a Red Sox fan i have to take some sort of perverse pleasure in Kevin Brown of the Yankees punching the clubhouse wall and breaking his hand this season. The numbers above on him are a bit misleading in that his pay per game is calculated on playing all of the regular season games, which as a pitcher is impossible for him to do. So if you look at his salary on a per games started for last year (assuming he started 33 games) then he is was actually paid about $455,000 per game! It makes you wonder what size brain that 39 yr old guy has when he slugs a concrete wall with his bare hand???????
While it wouldnt factor in a ton, I think this list would be very augmented if they included European sports/leagues as well. Michael Schumaker and David Beckham would both crack the top ten.
Why do ball players get the shit when so many CEO's make so much money that Sosa's pay looks like pocket change to them?
Look at the EBAY CEO. She worked there for about 7 years and now holds 1.1 billion dollars worth of company stock. Count in the shares she sold over the years etc etc. and I bet her net worth is somewhere at about 2 billion dollars. Is there any justification for an employee to make 2 billion dollars for 7 years of work? I say Sosa is underpaid if you look at the crooks running these big companies. You are upset over Sosa's pay while your retirement funds get sucked on by corporate leaches handing each other a percentage of your stock. Sosa earns his pay because someone is willing to pay him plain and simple. He is an easy target because his pay numbers are easy for all to see. Meanwhile there are many people that make Sosa's pay times 10 and they don't get scrutinized at all.
So many CEOs are worth 2 billion dollars? I doubt it. There are articles on the world's X richest people every once in a while. They don't list too many such people.
anyone trying to justify someone making 87k per game(let me repeat that, PER GAME, it is just a game)is nuts
i know that even myself contribute to it by seeing games and watching it on tv but the truth is that the world would go on fine w/out baseball and other sports but there are many professions that the world relies upon that dont make anything
muuud wrote:
Look at the EBAY CEO. She worked there for about 7 years and now holds 1.1 billion dollars worth of company stock.
Salary as a paycheck in cash and stocks are 2 different things. Yes they are both Liquid assets, but you will pay capital gains taxes on cashing out stocks, so the 1.1 billion is not 1.1 billion. But it still is tons of money.
At work, do you get paid only to give a presentation? Or are you also paid while you do the research and put together your slides before you go 'live'?
Pro sports players may be grossly overpaid, but per-game payroll stats are pointless if they mean the players are practicing, training and otherwise preparing with the team for free.
It's still a damn GAME. To be a CEO you need some sort of post high school formal education, usually an MBA or higher.
The "education" that pro athletes received (not earned) at their institutes of higher learning is a joke. Yes, there are exceptions, but they are just that...exceptions.
And now it's becoming more and more common for gifted athletes to forgo their formal education so they can earn millions, retire at 35, fatally shoot their limo driver and be found not guilty.
kingtut and the maroons wrote:
luv2run, you can't put a price on what i do. my job currently is staying home to take care of my newborn daugther...i get paid nothing.
there always has to be a smartass here. it's nice to meet ya.
You are correct about not being able to put a price on the value of being a stay at home parent (which I believe to be a very noble thing to do and something my wife does for our child and soon for our second child).
Actually an economist probably could put a price on it in terms of impact on economy and your household situation.
However, while being a stay at home parent is a noble undertaking, I do not consider it a job in the same respect as you having someone paying you. It is a lot of work however!
I think that I remember hearing a report once the Michael Schumaker was the highest paid athlete in the world. Between winnings, salary, and endorsements, he was like $5 million ahead of Tiger Woods.
euro wrote:
luv2run wrote:A person earns what his/her boss deems he/she is worth.
My guess is that you are overpaid.
so you are essentially saying that teachers are worth nothing?
I know teachers who are doing quite well, not Sammy Sosa well but making a good living.
There are more people out there that can teach than can hit a baseball over the fence and pack a stadium. Sorry, but the market dictates these things.
If there were fewer teaches, the ones teaching would make more money. Of course, other aspects of education would suffer.
Stock options are worth nothing until they are sold. If she sold off all her stock it would actually cause the price to plummet.
Also, how many jobs did she create? She might have generated jobs that created jobs for hundreds of people.
I do get irritated when CEOs who drive their companies in the ground get big bonuses and such. However, a CEO like Bill Gates that generates so much wealth for so many (and so much tax revenues) is worth every penny.
I know a guy who took over a company in bankruptcy. He turned it around and the company hired more employees, paid back all its debt at 100 cents on the dollar. I would venture to say he was worth every penny.
Also, CEOs are getting scrutinized. Where have you been?