Is there a single occupation in the United States where there is a REAL shortage of workers?

Dermatologists

Do you know how long the wait list is to even see one?

Yes, minions to criminal masterminds

POTUS

Competent message board mods.

come at me bro. wrote:

POTUS

Clearly not. We need one and have one. Plus we have a guy who's entire job in life is to hang around and be available in case POTUS croaks.

Dermatology is a completely manufactured shortage. Way more medical students want to be dermatologists than are given residency positions. The numbers are kept small to increase demand (and incomes) intentionally.

Daley Gravy wrote:

Dermatology is a completely manufactured shortage. Way more medical students want to be dermatologists than are given residency positions. The numbers are kept small to increase demand (and incomes) intentionally.

Restricting quantity supplied does not increase demand.

PCPs wrote:

Primary care physicians.

Not at all. There's just a maldistribution of them. There's no shortage.

The US Senate.

Not a single senator is doing his or her job, which is to represent the American people.

Protect and Serve wrote:

The US Senate.

Not a single senator is doing his or her job, which is to represent the American people.

....wait for it.

K5 detector wrote:

Protect and Serve wrote:

The US Senate.

Not a single senator is doing his or her job, which is to represent the American people.

....wait for it.

Wait for your immediate nonsensical response no matter what thread, no matter what time of day? We already got it.

But here you go. If you really want some more facts.

Yes, indeed, if one believes anymore that any government in the west has any independence from the zi*nist extremists who run Israel. No one certainly in the American government, which supplies most of the weapons and cash the Israeli radicals need to murder and terrorize Palestinians and even some dissident Jews. When the US senate votes 100 to 0 to support the Israeli genocide in Gaza something is going on. 100 to 0 vote is the symptom of the totalitarian state.

Nearly 2,000 Palestinians were killed in the month-long fighting, almost 75 per cent of them civilians, according to UN preliminary information. On the Israeli side, at least 67 people were killed, mostly soldiers. The number of Palestinian deaths includes 459 children – that figure is higher than the number of children killed in Gaza in the previous two conflicts.

Critical Thinking wrote:

come at me bro. wrote:

POTUS

Clearly not. We need one and have one. Plus we have a guy who's entire job in life is to hang around and be available in case POTUS croaks.

Playing golf is not working. You need a POTUS who is willing to work. That hasn't happened for a while.

BAM!

So predictable. :-)

Hiya folks wrote:

PCPs wrote:

Primary care physicians.

Not at all. There's just a maldistribution of them. There's no shortage.

So you're saying that there is an excess of PCPs in well served areas that offsets the shortage in underserved areas, resulting in a situation where the aggregate number of PCPs is equal to the number of PCPs needed? I don't know if I buy this. I think that there are areas that are underserved and areas that are adequately served, I don't think that the adequately served areas are over-served by any means.

you could never have a labor shortage unless there was an artificial ceiling on compensation

when people say "shortage" they usually just mean shortage of people willing to do X for the wage employers want to pay

[quote]sanhaji wrote:

Hospitals & medical facilities. $5,000 to $10,000 sign on bonus for PTs & OTs at many places. Google it.[/quote

Go to an ER on a Friday night and observe the shortage of doctors and nurses. Good luck if you have a medical emergency on a weekend.

Yes it is. Israel frequently goes on these racial killing sprees with the acquiescence of the occupied US Congress.

maybe this wrote:

Go to an ER on a Friday night and observe the shortage of doctors and nurses. Good luck if you have a medical emergency on a weekend.

lolwut

There is no shortage of doctors at the ED. There is a surplus of idiots who choose to obtain free non-emergent care inappropriately by utilizing the emergency department for routine or non-emergent issues.

3216 wrote:

you could never have a labor shortage unless there was an artificial ceiling on compensation

No, because market distortions other than compensation ceilings exist. Substantial barriers to entry exist in some fields (both in terms of time and cost). In some fields, the number of workers is restricted (availability of residency spots limits the number of physicians who can work in any given specialty, for example).

3216 wrote:

when people say "shortage" they usually just mean shortage of people willing to do X for the wage employers want to pay

Right, because that's really the most basic definition of what a shortage is. If people are willing to pay X for a good, and quantity demanded at price X is Y, there is a shortage if the quantity supplied is less than Y.

Really, though, "shortage" can be defined in different ways. The simple econ 101 version mentioned above is one definition. But you can also look at the socially optimal employment level in a given field considering all externalities. For an extreme example, the market for home invasion robbers might be efficient per the perfect competition model, but when you factor in externalities, there is obviously a surplus of home invasion robbers.

The distinction between definitions is relevant when discussing things like primary care physicians. Is there a shortage of PCPs in a neighborhood if quantity supplied equals quantity demanded, but there are still patients going untreated (i.e. the market is efficient in a basic supply-demand sense, but some people who need care can't afford it at the market clearing price)? It could actually be economically efficient for a poor neighborhood to not have any doctors (quantity supplied and quantity demanded are both zero for any positive price). But from a social perspective, most people would say that there is a physician shortage in a sufficiently large neighborhood that has no basic medical services.