Also about comparing 17 min as being very fast in local 5k scene is bc most except for like five people actually train.
Also about comparing 17 min as being very fast in local 5k scene is bc most except for like five people actually train.
old guy 68 wrote:
I'd like to see some 10 miles races. That has always been my best distance.
Also, I had to train hard to break 18 min for 5K, but I was older (37 years old) and not really talented.
17:37 5K & 1;19:50 half a few weeks apart. I think that was consistent.
Ok I admit that 17 min was too fast, but did you get to 18:30 in 5k after about solid year of training?
Op here wrote:
Accra wrote:How does that rephrasing change things AT ALL?
Tommy had it right. Reaching your full potential going to require years of hard work, a mix of strength, speed, and endurance depending on the event. You're not going anywhere NEAR your half marathon potential anyways. It does not matter which event you choose.
How it changes is that I'm talking about someone with average talent who actually trains instead of talking about average adult who decide to not train. Do with average talent, you need to increase your distance as you'll probably top out on short distances pretty fast. However, marathon is too risky with its distance so hypothesis is that half marathon is the distance that most adults who want to run should train for if you want to reach your long distance potential without risking high probability of injury.
NO. You won't "top out" on short distances "pretty fast." It takes MANY YEARS of consistent training to reach your potential at EVERY DISTANCE, mile, 5k, half marathon, whatever. That's what you don't get.
Op here wrote:
Yea, it's bc I already get laid so I don't have to go out on Friday night if I don't want to. It's a nice choice to have when i don't have to be desperate like some of you here with serious beer goggles on.
Yeah, so you're posting on LetsRun on a Friday night, but you want to let everyone know that you *could* be getting laid right now. You sound like a real winner.
Op here wrote:
Also about comparing 17 min as being very fast in local 5k scene is bc most except for like five people actually train.
I have a really hard time believing you're 30 years old, based on how you write. Goodness me get help.
For the average American over 30 has has not been a runner, the 5K would be the ideal distance to stick with. Most never run a decent 5K before running their first marathon.
old guy 68 wrote:
I'd like to see some 10 miles races. That has always been my best distance.
Also, I had to train hard to break 18 min for 5K, but I was older (37 years old) and not really talented.
17:37 5K & 1;19:50 half a few weeks apart. I think that was consistent.
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OP here wrote:
Ok I admit that 17 min was too fast, but did you get to 18:30 in 5k after about solid year of training?
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Keep in mind that I'm not a gifted runner.
I started running when I was 30 years old. Averaging about 25-30 miles a week it took me 3 years to break 40 minutes for 10K and '5 years' to break 18 minutes for 5K (having upped my weekly average to 50 miles for the previous 2 years)
I peaked at 37 years old (after 7 years of running) with a 59:28 10 mile, 1:19:50 half marathon, 17:37 5K, 36:25 10K and a 4:51 mile. All off hard work...2 speed work outs and a long run every week (when not racing). 6-7 days a week.
To answer your question about breaking 18:30...that took 3 years.
No, half marathon is way off. It would be 20K or 25K, something like that.
Accra wrote:
Op here wrote:How it changes is that I'm talking about someone with average talent who actually trains instead of talking about average adult who decide to not train. Do with average talent, you need to increase your distance as you'll probably top out on short distances pretty fast. However, marathon is too risky with its distance so hypothesis is that half marathon is the distance that most adults who want to run should train for if you want to reach your long distance potential without risking high probability of injury.
NO. You won't "top out" on short distances "pretty fast." It takes MANY YEARS of consistent training to reach your potential at EVERY DISTANCE, mile, 5k, half marathon, whatever. That's what you don't get.
You're a moron. Of course it takes years before you top out. My argument is that half marathon is the distance that average talent can train to be their best distance. If not half marathon, maybe 10k.
It's ok if you don't get it. Someone has to bag my groceries.
Xavi wrote:
Op here wrote:Yea, it's bc I already get laid so I don't have to go out on Friday night if I don't want to. It's a nice choice to have when i don't have to be desperate like some of you here with serious beer goggles on.
Yeah, so you're posting on LetsRun on a Friday night, but you want to let everyone know that you *could* be getting laid right now. You sound like a real winner.
Of course I can. My hobby is running as an adult and not out of shape. people who are runners as adults and in shape have it going for them. I have lots of things going for me that I find it enjoyable to go out for a run which is real mundane activity. I'm not some high school runner who has to run like you who suck at other sports so you're forced into running. I choose to run.
Manchester wrote:
Op here wrote:Also about comparing 17 min as being very fast in local 5k scene is bc most except for like five people actually train.
I have a really hard time believing you're 30 years old, based on how you write. Goodness me get help.
I'm writing with my phone. Thank goodness my writing skills on a forum doesn't prevent me from getting a great job that you wish you had.
Op here wrote:
Manchester wrote:I have a really hard time believing you're 30 years old, based on how you write. Goodness me get help.
I'm writing with my phone. Thank goodness my writing skills on a forum doesn't prevent me from getting a great job that you wish you had.
Whether you're writing on your phone or not the way you interact with others resembles someone far less mature than one should be after 30 years old.
That being said, Xavi is a moron.
And to return to the topic, probably? You do make a good point that the longer distances are a better reflection of hard work. Natural talent and age become less of a factor as you go up. There are few 50 year olds that could keep up with me over four laps of the track, but I've seen plenty when looking over my shoulder in a 10k road race.
Xavi wrote:
So wouldn't the answer be the 100 meter dash then? Idiot.
When you talk to people in this manner, you reveal how small your penis is.
The original response was correct. Most adults simply don't put in the mileage to make the half marathon the best distance. If we are talking about former college runners, then sure, the half marathon would be great for someone who has logged some high mileage and can then maintain 40-60 miles as life intervenes. But most adult runners work around 30-45 miles per week. Of course, this enough to run a half marathon. But this will not optimize a half marathon. I think 10k is a better distance, but the half marathon is the rage.
Op here wrote:
Manchester wrote:I have a really hard time believing you're 30 years old, based on how you write. Goodness me get help.
I'm writing with my phone. Thank goodness my writing skills on a forum doesn't prevent me from getting a great job that you wish you had.
Nice try, but a phone keyboard doesn't magically make you sound dumber than you are.
Also you are incredibly insecure.
There is no ideal distance.
Op here wrote:
Of course I can. My hobby is running as an adult and not out of shape. people who are runners as adults and in shape have it going for them. I have lots of things going for me that I find it enjoyable to go out for a run which is real mundane activity. I'm not some high school runner who has to run like you who suck at other sports so you're forced into running. I choose to run.
Is your incoherent rant over yet? Can someone translate for me? I suppose it would have made sense if you weren't on your phone?
Xavi wrote:
Op here wrote:Of course I can. My hobby is running as an adult and not out of shape. people who are runners as adults and in shape have it going for them. I have lots of things going for me that I find it enjoyable to go out for a run which is real mundane activity. I'm not some high school runner who has to run like you who suck at other sports so you're forced into running. I choose to run.
Is your incoherent rant over yet? Can someone translate for me? I suppose it would have made sense if you weren't on your phone?
Lol...
Op is pathetic
Randy Oldman wrote:
There is no ideal distance.
This guy gets it.
NJ Possible wrote:
Xavi wrote:So wouldn't the answer be the 100 meter dash then? Idiot.
When you talk to people in this manner, you reveal how small your penis is.
I appreciate the complement, but no, the "100 meters" wasn't referring to my penis length. Thank you for your interest.