asdfe wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:The rise in obesity rates in the US has clearly followed a rise in the average intake of calories. Most of the increased caloric intake has been from carbs, protein and fat.
As opposed to what? haha
Twenty bucks says the guy who wrote that is an exercise science major at a school that has a cardinal direction in its name.
Ah letsrun wrote:
asdfe wrote:As opposed to what? haha
Twenty bucks says the guy who wrote that is an exercise science major at a school that has a cardinal direction in its name.
NOPe, it is a clown kollege that has oregon in it's name.
its name
Rich people are getting fatter too.
I'm tired of hearing how healthy foods are more expensive than unhealthy foods. Chicken is cheap, carrots and celery are cheaper than cheez doodles and doritos, and water is cheaper than juice. Trader Joes, whole foods and fairway are accessible to every neighborhood here in NY. You can buy fresh produce and healthy snack foods for a cheaper price than from the local bodegas that sell crap. It's worth the subway or bus ride, I do it. Eating healthy is an investment, less sick days and fewer medical bills should be an incentive to anyone. I feel bad for children who are being set up for "diabesity" but as a parent it is tough when camps, schools, after school programs and marketers throw sugar at you.
Saying it is a self discipline problem doesn't work as justification for another government program (or fifty), so...NO! It's because poor people are victims and banks are evil!
Math Counts wrote:
Ted Underhill wrote:Pretty sure he said the wife and kids were away and he tried to see how cheaply he could eat, while eating healthy.
You try to keep up and stop being such a meany.
Ummm...pretty sure that is completely irrelevant to the sequence of posts that you are replying to.
Sorry if you are too stupid to understand such simple concepts.
sorry, misunderstood/misread.
Precious Roy wrote:
In lower income families the problem is that there is minimal time for food preparation due to long work days, working two jobs or working late shifts. Lower income families will frequently rely on fast food for meals or will cook the fastest and easiest meals from the frozen food section of the grocery store. Lower income families rarely have good access to health clubs, parks and other recreational facilities and many will keep kids inside to avoid gangs and crime in the neighborhood.
Educated people who are busy and poor don't seem to fall into the same pattern. If poor nutrition is just a result of working long hours for little money, grad schools and med schools should be full of fat people.
actually....... wrote:
Rich people are getting fatter too.
+1. Most of the wealthy people I know are overweight.
Amaar wrote:
Math Counts wrote:$108.34 for one week and one person. For your family of four that is $433.36 per week. That hardly seems cheap.
Right but why the f would you have a family of four if you were poor? Having kids when you can barely provide for yourself is the dumbest possible thing you could do.
Please go back and read (re-read?) the first post. Lack of impulse control & short-sightedness is the answer to your question.
Dust wrote:
actually....... wrote:Rich people are getting fatter too.
+1. Most of the wealthy people I know are overweight.
Absolutely not. No way.
Go to the pool of any country club in American. Real country clubs: private, member owned.
The woman do not work for the most part, spend all day working out. The men typically work out now, too. Especially those under 60.
No Way wrote:
Dust wrote:+1. Most of the wealthy people I know are overweight.
Absolutely not. No way.
Go to the pool of any country club in American. Real country clubs: private, member owned.
The woman do not work for the most part, spend all day working out. The men typically work out now, too. Especially those under 60.
Hahahaha - you didn't consider there might be a self-selection bias going on with WHICH country club members show up at the POOL in their bikinis?? LMFAO.
Precious Roy wrote:
The rise in obesity rates in the US has clearly followed a rise in the average intake of calories.
The rise in the number of houses in the US has clearly followed a rise in the number of bricks being used to build houses.
ItsClear wrote:
Yes, i spent that on one person, but I ate well and we still have a good deal of the stuff left over. Plus, I run 80 mpw and my wife and kids are eating NOWHERE near the amount that I eat. I would go as far as saying that we could have fed all four of us on the food I purchased during that week.
My point was that you can eat very healthy, non-processed foods without breaking the bank. Sure, you can eat for $20 at the local southern comfort buffet, but you will be enormous.
Which means you spent less than $108.34. You certainly didn't make your point very clear at all. Good luck next time.
bioman wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:The rise in obesity rates in the US has clearly followed a rise in the average intake of calories.
The rise in the number of houses in the US has clearly followed a rise in the number of bricks being used to build houses.
true. But if we just made those same houses out of wood instead of bricks, the number of houses would actually magically decrease!
(or something like that....)
ItsClear wrote:
I spent $108.34 for the entire week. This did not include the two nights when I went for beers with some friends.
Each night I ate fresh vegetables, rice or pasta and a protein. I actually had tofu 3 nights that week. Organic tofu is like $1.99 for a huge square.
I had oatmeal and eggs in the morning and made a lunch to take with me. My lunch was usually a salad and rice/beans but I switched it up a bit.
I ate like a king and spent next to nothing.
That is a ridiculous amount of money for one person for one week. If you are making your own breakfast, lunch and dinner you can do much better.
Think about cutting that in half or a quarter.
Who spends $108 on themselves for a week?! What markets are you shopping at?
In the end of July now, corn cost $0.30/ear, zucchini $0.50/each, boneless skinless chicken can be on sale for $1.99/lb, bananas $0.55/lb, rice is $2 for a giant bag.
Buy yourself some store brand thai sauce and you can make a h3ll of a lot of good food for CHEAP.
Precious Roy wrote:
In lower income families the problem is that there is minimal time for food preparation due to long work days, working two jobs or working late shifts. Lower income families will frequently rely on fast food for meals or will cook the fastest and easiest meals from the frozen food section of the grocery store.
Everyone has an issue with preparation. Good chance to make it useful. Have the kids sit around the table while you prepare. They can do homework, read, talk about their day. I have a neighbor who learns English from her kids while she prepares dinner.
Precious Roy wrote:
Lower income families rarely have good access to health clubs, parks and other recreational facilities and many will keep kids inside to avoid gangs and crime in the neighborhood.
Access to a grocery store is key. Sad that they have fled cities. But there are parks every where and why not take a little family walk every evening. Three laps around the block.
Eating healthy while on a budget takes work. Here are some of the top items that come to mind, factoring price and health
- oats
- eggs
- corn
- zucchini/squash
- cilantro
- bananas
- frozen fruit is moderately priced, plus lasts longer than fresh so less likely to waste
- chicken is generally moderately priced
- rice
- yogurt
In addition, shop the sales. Rotisserie chicken is high in sodium, but cheap and not too bad when you add fresh vegetables and rice.
No one wants to hear it wrote:
It's because they are more self-disciplined and less lazy. It's not hard to eat healthily on the cheap, but it takes advanced planning and impulse control. These aren't exactly qualities the poor are known for.
This is not it. Plenty of obese rich people.
For people with means though that DO exercise and eat right, that has more to do with feeling in control of their lives rather than just living day to day and eating whatever you can. Education is a big part of it there. I used to work with an uneducated woman who was 100 pounds over weight. She said to me one day, "I have the same breakfast every day...one that my mother taught me to make...French toast made with a stick of butter, peanut butter between two slices, egg on the outside, then covered in syrup and sprinkled with powdered sugar." She ate that EVERY DAY. She added, "Most of the time I'd rather just eat an apple." So I said, "So eat an apple!" She was so caught up in what she was told was a "hearty" breakfast that she didn't bother to learn what was good for her. She lost the 100 pounds then in a year.
Affluence affords us lots of things...we can ponder life. We can scope out the best ways to exercise or eat. When you're poor you just have way fewer opportunities to learn and grow. Yes, some of them are lazy. Not all of them are though. Lots of working poor in this country who work way harder than I do.