My Quest for SUB-12 100 METER DASH!!

lol that coach d would think that somebody trying a 100 for recreation would invest hundreds of dollars in a timing system

especially when they could just fill some friends worth $50 of beer and rock some 10.8 hand times

But nobody cares about 10.8 hand times. One could also say that about a 9.87 training run in Texas when you don't have a wind gauge (could be off by 0.25). You can buy the basic Freelap for less than the cost of travel to 1 meet to get a FAT result, and then you'll know within 0.1 sec or so (ignoring winds)...and it's a LOT easier to use than Brower or Lynx which cost many times as much. This might be the only thing I'll trust Dennis Mitchell about (he uses Freelap for training).

Stopwatches are pretty much useless for self timing sprints, and they're not that great even for 800 training like 3X4X200 or 6X300.

d, you're missing the point--the OP, if not a troll, won't spend more than probably $25 on something he really doesn't care about. He's clearly not a sprinter, he clearly doesn't care enough to buy a Freelap or to spend money traveling to a meet, to find out his 100 time.

Also, it is unclear if you were intimating that Powell's recent 9.87 didn't have a wind gauge. The result has been ratified by the IAAF, and the wind reading is given as having been +1.6, so I must be missing something?

That's why I said (and he agreed) he should at least post a video of himself running a 100. Even if he cheats the reaction time badly we could at least estimate how fast he could run in a race.

Hello letsrun, sorry to be gone for so long.

I was not able to find a certified meet with FAT timing for the 100m, although I spent a lot of time looking for one. (I guess there aren't many options during the summer months for track meets where I live, near San Francisco.)

Then I attempted to get my former teammate with his timing company to time me and he was busy timing several meets that weekend and the next, and he was going to charge for use of the timing equipment as well, which was pretty expensive. I decided not to pay for it.

So I'm very sorry I was not able to follow through with my promise (although I DID do all the workouts I listed) and I don't know why some of you think I'm lying. The best time I got was that 12.1x in practice with my spikes, although I did hand time it with my stopwatch, so it might have been a couple tenths of a second off.

Also, I have been extremely busy and have literally not had access to a computer for several weeks.

Again, apologies to all of you who wanted to see this happen. I should have planned this for a different month, where I could actually find a meet to run. However, I will be attempting this again, and will update this thread if any of you are still interested.

P.S. nice to see you back Sprintgeezer! We could have used your advice, but there were some people that were able to help fortunately (Flo'da Boy, Bad Wigins, etc, thanks)

Rock on, Word. No computer, what were you doing? Fire jumping? Tree planting? Bird counts/botanical surveys on proposed pipeline corridors? Military/guard commitment? Harvesting opium in Kashmir?

[quote]word. wrote:

Hello letsrun, sorry to be gone for so long.

I was not able to find a certified meet with FAT timing for the 100m, although I spent a lot of time looking for one. (I guess there aren't many options during the summer months for track meets where I live, near San Francisco.)

Dude, check out

http://www.pausatf.org

under all comers meets. The Los Gatos All Comers would have been ideal. Also the Pride Meet was a good option. If you're serious about proving that distance runners really can sprint (and for the record, I don't think they can) then you need to seriously try for a meet next year.

Here's the link:

http://www.pausatf.org/data/2014/mtfmeetsched2014.html

[quote]word. wrote:

Today was my first day of sprint training, which I will continue for 4 weeks ending with a 100 meter dash time trial of 11.99 seconds or faster. This is an attempt to prove wrong the letsrun naysayers who think it impossible that distance runners could have any leg speed.

I am pretty sure there are lots of middle and even long distance runners who post on letsrun who in their prime could run a sub 12.00 100 meters. That ain't exactly national class speed. Who are all these people who think this impossible?

The actual K5 wrote:

I am pretty sure there are lots of middle and even long distance runners who post on letsrun who in their prime could run a sub 12.00 100 meters. That ain't exactly national class speed. Who are all these people who think this impossible?

A lot of people on this thread, obviously. The kicker is from a dead start, not in the middle of an interval.

Not one LRC-posting long distance runner can break 12 FAT from the blocks, unless they are just as good a "distance runner" as I am.

Of course some of the mid-d guys can break 12 FAT from the blocks, that is a no-brainer.

I hope the OP goes for it in the future. Unlike what everybody here seems to think sprinting is not running, and much sprinting improvement can be gained by a distance runner quickly, through just learning better technique through phases of the 100m race. Improvement will be limited to the extent that physiology permits the required technique.

Maybe a lot of you not-so-great distance runners will learn that you are actually better-suited to middle distance than to long distance, and will respond surprisingly well to sprint training.

Hey SG, when running the 1st bend in a 400, where should you be hitting peak velocity?

I don't know, I was never a big 400 guy. I think I posted once about how I got shafted onto a 4x4 relay, got us from last to first after some ridiculous 20.x or low 21.x first 200, held onto it until around 300m, and then died back into the pack.

There was a good thread on this, with links to some good youtube vids about 400 pacing theories and strategies...I will search.

How about the 200? Can you expect to peak at the same distance as in a 100?

What I am wondering is if you start slower, as 400 runners seem to do, can you hit peak velocity later than usual without it being too slow, and is that an advantage.

I've looked for studies that took 10m splits of a 400 race but they only seem to do that for the 100 and 110h.

word. wrote:

(I guess there aren't many options during the summer months for track meets where I live, near San Francisco.)

2 years ago I ran a 4.87 hand timed though, 40yd dash- and I started standing straight up because I had no idea what I was doing! I am very confident I could break 12 with little training. I was a distance runner in college, but also an avid basketball player I am always one of the fastest guys on the court.

I do not think that just because you run distance doesn\'t mean you don\'t have speed.

shanel wrote:

2 years ago I ran a 4.87 hand timed though, 40yd dash...

"2 years ago" "Hand timed"

Uh huh.

Pretty easy bro. I play bball all the time. I am fast. It's not that hard.