Paula to place, not win 2003 World 10000m

You wouldn't be saying that if she were a black woman.

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**=signifies that the individual 10000m personnal best came in winning in a major championship, where time is unimportant. The Ethopians (Gete and Derartu) run for place not time; therefore, their 10000m times could be considerable faster.

In 2002 Paula and Sun both ran for time in their pr races and did a wonderful job; however, Derartu and Gete have yet to run a 10000m with the intent of posting a fast time.

Stop you flatter me.

Hey your prejudiced

I still think Paula could win but so can three other women (who are just as good as Paula in the 10000m).

Vipam

I think this satirical posts is necessary:

Of course I'd like to see Paula win for no other fact than she is white and the others are not...I think everyone here would like to see that.

But - due to the natural athletic advantage the black athletes have - I think Gete Wami will take it...and will do one hell of a victory dance down the home stretch!

Kyle Kevin Koffman wrote:

IBut - due to the natural athletic advantage the black athletes have - I think Gete Wami will take it...and will do one hell of a victory dance down the home stretch!

You mean there really is something to their ancestors having to outrun wild animals in order to survive? Comes in handy here in America as well where they have to outrun the cops in order to stay out of prison.

come one WEJO do something about this. This is bullshit

you mean that your father didn't give you the inside scoop about the advantages of mingling with the natives. he's one of the favorties with all the big black guys you speak of in prison-i often heard of them saying he wash their undies better than anyone. and boy do he look good in dat blonde wig, red lips, and black pooka dot halter top. he could probably pace wami for atleast 100 meters.

hardfacts

hardfacts wrote:

you mean that your father didn't give you the inside scoop about the advantages of mingling with the natives. he's one of the favorties with all the big black guys you speak of in prison-i often heard of them saying he wash their undies better than anyone. and boy do he look good in dat blonde wig, red lips, and black pooka dot halter top. he could probably pace wami for atleast 100 meters.

hardfacts

Sounds like you're one of the bitches of the big black guys you seem to know so fondly. Like dropping the soap I bet.

2003 world championship 10000m

1. gete wami (eth) 29:43.78

2. paula radcliffe (gb) 29:46.98

3. sun yingje (chn) 29:56.05

4. tegla louroupe (ken) 29:59.89

5. derartu tulu (eth) 30:08.98

If there's one thing I can't put up with, it's intolerance.

Vipam wrote:

In 2002 Paula and Sun both ran for time in their pr races and did a wonderful job; however, Derartu and Gete have yet to run a 10000m with the intent of posting a fast time.

You mean Derartu and Gete could have set new world records but couldn't be bothered to try bit harder? Yeah, who cares about boring records and stuff in athletics!

In 2002 Paula was very significantly slowed in European championships not just by heavy weather but by having to lap most of a big field. She could go a lot faster against superior competition...

Is she unbeatable? Of course not.

Who is going to win in Paris? WAIT AND SEE!!

Now Tulu has joined Wami as a withdrawal from Saturday's X/C race in Gateshead. Hmmm... whether 'genuine' reasons or not. I think this only gives Paula even more of a psychological edge.

Paula will win World X/C by about 15 seconds

Paula will win London Marathon, dipping inside her own WR.

Paula will win WC 10,000m in around 19:40.

There are two things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures . . . and the Dutch.

I don't think this give Paula an edge at all. Not one bit, Tulu and Wami are seasoned pros and aren't gonna waste their time with this race if they can't perform as well as they'd like. They are preparing, no doubt, for the World champs this summer and world cross this spring. They'll be ready then as they always have been in the past. They aren't intimidated by Paula, they beat her last time it counted, when people on this board here said she'd walk all over them. And if Paula is to win the 10000 this summer she will have to contend with 4 ethiopians since Tulu gets the wild card. With that many people in the race they can mess with the pace, slow it down, speed it up, much as the ethiopian men did in the 1980 10000m. Paula is on her own against savvy runners with great finishing kicks. I would not write them off yet.

I think that Paula will win the world 10km, but the weather might not cooperate.

I think that she and her minions will lobby the IAAF to have the race at a suitable time such as 10pm.

jason

Mack

I had the same mindset when I heard of Wami and Tulu pulling out of the Jan 4 race. It would have been better for Paula to have tested herself against two of her main competitors before the big dance OUTDOORS WORLD 10000m. The Ethopians do not show up unless they are PREPARED and that is what they are doing, preparing to run under 30 minutes this summer (because we know Paula can). Also beside the Ethopians Paula also have to worry about Sun Yunjie (Chn).

Vipam

Vipam,

I won't go so far as to say you are prejudiced, but you do seem to find any way to find fault with any white, caucasian, European runner (you pick). It could be a latent hope that Paula loses, or some out of control fandom of others or hatred for Paula. I'm not sure which.

Perhaps you think that others may challenge her, but you always present such opinions in a way that you know will provoke others.

When someone is so dominant as Paula has been in the last year, it is just silly to pick anyone other than her to win that race, even though it is a 10,000 and not a marathon. Sure someone else might win, but assuming Paula is healthy and so are the others, she will win that race. Someone would really have to shock the world in order to beat Paula if she is really on top of her game on that day.

Usually when someone picks the overwhelming underdog or non favorite to win, it is because they want to imply that they have some sort of special insight that others do not have. That is the reason that Shaquille O'Neal didn't win a unanimous NBA MVP two years ago. The writer from CNNSI (I forget his name) picked Allen Iverson and gave a ton of reasons why he deserved it over Shaq (none of them held water), when the rest of the world picked Shaq. He just wanted to be different from the group - to set himself apart and kind of show that he had something special to say.

Methinks you are in the same boat here. Either that or you really are trying to piss people off. If you read this message board often, you know that I don't get pissed, so that hasn't worked on me if that is your game.

If you are in earnest and really think that those other women stand a reasonable chance of beating her, then I think you need to sit down and ask yourself why it is you think that. Perhaps you will be surprised with the answer.

Paula wins by 30+ seconds.

Willy - Normally I respect what you say, but come on man, why cant somebody else be entitled to their opinion? Paula is the overwhelming favorite in lou of this year, however, you cannot just give her the Championship now. There is a reason they run the race.

Example - El G in the Olympics. Take your pick of the Olympics that he shouldve won and didnt.

Everybody should respect other peoples opinion on this topic seeing as how nothing is set in stone. Nobody knows for sure who is going to be healthy, and nobody knows who is going to race the best on that particular day. It's fun to throw out conjectures like they have been doing on this thread, but dont get 'upset' (I know you're not really upset) because somebody doesnt agree that Paula will win.

With that said, Paula is gonna rock some socks come time for Worlds.

Flagpole Willy

I appreciate your response it seems that you have a strong affection for your belief in the subject matter; however, contary to your belief I am not prejudice nor do I hate/dislike white athletes. The fact of the matter is there are SEVERAL white and/or European athletes that I think are INCREDIBLE athletes: Paula, Gaby, Andre Bucher,

Deena*, Alan Culpepper*, Susie Power, Turova etc.

The fact that I picked three women to challenge and possibly beat Paula in this World Championship doesn't imply that I hate Paula. Paula was very dominate in 2002; however, she did not face the likes of Gete, Derartu, or Sun in the 10000m (Sonia is not in their league in the 10000m).

Gete Wami: 4:01.47-1500m speed, 30:22 10000m PR and has finished ahead of Paula 4 of 4 times in Olympic/World 10000m Finals.

Derartu Tulu: 2 time Olympic GOLD MEDALIST, never lost to Paula on a track 10000m, can outkick any woman in the 10000m.

Sun Yungie: 2 outstanding 10000m and 2002 showed she is capable of running much faster than 30:28.

Paula's an OUTSTANDING distance runner and VERY GUTSY!

All thing consider and all LADIES show up in top form, hmmm I wonder why I give them a chance to beat Paula. MAYBE BECAUSE THEY DESERVE TO BE CONSIDER AS HER EQUAL IN THE 10000m (You think)!

Happy New Years