Can Kiprop Break the 1500M WR?

kiprop is so obviously doping !

like younger dibaba and maybe aregawi .

kenya runners dirty as ever ,include other

guy in kenyan relay while at it ,also .

just cant use same methods as previous runners

which were in general better.

now enphasis is more on speed where wouldnt of been.

IGF-1 lr3 simples and as much epo can get away with .

very like what is happening in 800m ,

exact same protocal .

this peptide definitly aids the taller athlete with

better and more motor skill functioning and eqauls greater stride and speed .

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Ryun never cracked 3:33

LOL

aduck2022 wrote:

this peptide definitly aids the taller athlete with

better and more motor skill functioning and eqauls greater stride and speed .

interesting

a special dope for tall people

ventolin^3 wrote:

Caged wrote:Some of these morons who know nothing about track on here (ahem, ventolin, ahem), specifically the 1500 event, can never grasp that raw times in the 1500 are far from the only factor to evaluating where an athlete is. Mile races are often tactical, slow races, as I said before and didn't really need to say to anyone who is remotely educated on this sport

moron

i coudn't care if she has won 100 races

in this day & age you have to run fast

that's how you judge all-time greatness

she hasn't even cracked 3'56

My bad, I forgot you have the attention span of a gnat and the comprehension of a garden slug. Maybe 3rd time (postingb this) is a charm for you-

4. When Qu broke the 1500 WR in 1993, she had run only one other sub-4:00 in her life, a 3:57 the year before. In '93 she ran only one sub-4:00 other than her WR, a 3:59 in the heats. She didn't run another sub-4:00 until 4 years later. Shoot yourself.

GoldenMiles wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Sure there are others. Bubka is the most obvious. He is far more dominant on the All time list than El Guerrouj. Zelezny is also at least as dominant.

Interesting. I've never heard of Bubka. Will have to look him up.

Not much of a T&F fan, are you?

Caged wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

moron

i coudn't care if she has won 100 races

in this day & age you have to run fast

that's how you judge all-time greatness

she hasn't even cracked 3'56

My bad, I forgot you have the attention span of a gnat and the comprehension of a garden slug. Maybe 3rd time (postingb this) is a charm for you-

4. When Qu broke the 1500 WR in 1993, she had run only one other sub-4:00 in her life, a 3:57 the year before. In '93 she ran only one sub-4:00 other than her WR, a 3:59 in the heats. She didn't run another sub-4:00 until 4 years later. Shoot yourself.

Why are you so emotional and getting so upset? Must be because you're lashing out after having been proven wrong. You also realize Qu is one of the most obvious dopers/cheats in the history of the sport right? Maybe she majorly upped the dope from the year before.

Aregawi is over 6 seconds away from the record and has done nothing to show she can get close. Kiprop is less than 2.

Why are you crying like a littlebtch? And can't get off my jock? It's because I annihilated your retrdass, and proved you wrong and you can't debate because you are too stupid. Kill yourself. (Proven wrong where?)

Kiprop has already made repeated attempts at the record and fell short. Aregawi has never made any attempt at 3:50.

Since you can't do anything other than cry after each time I btchslap you, i suggest you stop responding to me

Mr. Obvious wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

moron

i coudn't care if she has won 100 races

in this day & age you have to run fast

that's how you judge all-time greatness

she hasn't even cracked 3'56

Ryun never cracked 3:33

Lol I bet Ventolin's head just exploded.

Always funny when someone tells someone "they annhilated your retrdass" when in fact they have done nothing of the sort.

Don't get me wrong, you make some good points..at least at the start; but you also argue obnoxiously hostile and with lots of insults. Makes you look desperate and good arguments get a lost in the shuffle.

Still cryin like a btch

relayer wrote:

Lol I bet Ventolin's head just exploded.

happened a long time ago

all his brains fell out

Caged wrote:

Still cryin like a btch

You could make an argument for your last four words.

The first, it seems implausible to me. I generally don't cry about things I haven't read or seen. Perhaps this is an exception.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

GoldenMiles wrote:

Interesting. I've never heard of Bubka. Will have to look him up.

Not much of a T&F fan, are you?

Like I said earlier, I haven't followed the sport for a long time now, since high school really.

Caged wrote:My bad, I forgot you have the attention span of a gnat and the comprehension of a garden slug. Maybe 3rd time (postingb this) is a charm for you-

4. When Qu broke the 1500 WR in 1993, she had run only one other sub-4:00 in her life, a 3:57 the year before. In '93 she ran only one sub-4:00 other than her WR, a 3:59 in the heats. She didn't run another sub-4:00 until 4 years later. Shoot yourself.

you are a complete moron

the idea of a career peak seems to be beyond your peabrain

qu peaked for 1 year in her career

that was '93 & the target was the china meet

your numbskull not even realise that stuttgart was more an after-thought

ma's army had only been interested in the china meet but having shown such great form they went to stuttgart

after '93 ma's camp broke up & only wang from that camp kept going seriously

more nonsense

doha was 1st big met of year & any 3'56 gal can run a fast 3k

so where was the swede ???

moron

there was something drastically wrong with her in doha running 10s slower than indoors

only a fool coudn't comprehend she woud go back to drawing board for few weeks to figure out what went wrong then come back with a bang

idiot

we have only had 2 diamond meets so far

the season has hardly started & we have had no euro meets when the "real" season starts

moron

can't your peabrain figure out running 10s slower than indoors show she is not healthy ???

when she is healthy your peabrain think she will run NO 1500s this year ???

no

idiot

she'll target an easy wr as a prime target & 2k & 2 miles are "easy" wrs

she can attempt 1500 when she is healthy

i answered this drivel elsewhere

what is this drivel ???

you seem to have no clue whatsoever

moron

you are deluded

only a complete utter moron coud believe the swede will run 3'49 !!!

ventolin^3 wrote:

he needs muscle mass to get there

whether he has put it on will depend on his comments &/or careful vid analysis

What?

you must have a dirt in your brain to call someone dirty.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Ryun never cracked 3:33

Ryun had one great year when he never got into a paced race and he ran on dirt tracks, including a 3:51 in 95 degrees. But you think that was his potential.

Well, Asbel Kiprop through four pro seasons (2007 (Osaka-3:35), 2008 (Beijing, Gold), 2009, 2010) had never even cracked 3:31, and he had had plenty of paced races with competition on bouncy synthetic tracks. You were not seriously the one person in the world who thought that was close to his ceiling, right? It was not until 2011 that he ran 3:30 and then in 2012 he went right down to high 3:28, now over 2 seconds faster than his pr through his first four pro seasons. But was that his ceiling? No, of course, not, the pace hadn't been right and in 2013 he ran 3:27. Is that his ceiling? Not many people think it is. He cracked at 1300-1400m this year in a world record attempt, but he may very well run sub 3:27 later this year or at Monaco next year. So, there is a guy who has dropped 3.5 seconds from his pr from four pro seasons where he always had the drafting and the synthetic, and still has more in the tank. Why couldn't Ryun, who showed all the potential, also have dropped much more with the right pacing, someone to draft off of to 1100 and a synthetic?

idiot alert wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

he needs muscle mass to get there

whether he has put it on will depend on his comments &/or careful vid analysis

What?

Agreed. What is this crap about Kiprop needing more muscle mass to run faster? As if he doesn't have the basic speed?

And anyway people who talk about more muscle mass are clueless about strength to weight ratio, and how more muscle mass will actually slow a runner down, even a sprinter.