clide bundy makes comment on black people

urikiahj wrote:

To put it all in perspective, President Obama, Eric Holder, and all their other black friend cronies (Sharpten, Jackson, et al) are continuing to take the black community to an all time low. Don't you all see it?

All the money that has been distributed to black urban communities for education, redevelopment, and health and well being is all for naught. Why? These big cities are run by corrupt democratic politicians who steal all the money, then make excuses and complain for America's lack of commitment to the poor and the black community.

Yet, we continue to be bombarded by Obama and the black communities plea for equality? Really? Obama and all his liberal fakes are the ones stealing all the money. Don't you liberals get it?

You've been watching Sean Hannity too much. Turn the channel and return to reality. So only democrats are corrupt? it's all liberal's fault? What's your solution to fix poverty? if not investing in education, redevelopment and health care then what do we do with the poor in this country? forget about them and look the other way while we give more tax cuts to the rich (as if they don't get enough already). Do you just assume we take care of our rich so they "can create jobs"? will that solve everything? cut education, health care, infrastructure? and give the 1% more tax cuts. Is this your solution?

For all races of mankind,they have to really work hard at it to hate.

Except the white man.For the white man,hate is as natural as breathng.

Learn some history buddy wrote:

Joe Binks wrote:

In times of slavery and up to the 1950’s American black families tended to stay together.

Except when families groups of slaves - even when they were permitted - were broken up to be sold to the highest bidder, which commonly happened. That's much better than getting government subsidized housing, I'm sure.

This below was written by an eminent black American economist.

Presumably, according to you, he doesn’t know his own race history.

“Most of the problems faced by the black community have their roots in a black culture that differs significantly from the black culture of yesteryear.

Today only 35 percent of black children are raised in two-parent households, but as far back as 1880, in Philadelphia, 75 percent of black children were raised in two-parent households -- and it was as high as 85 percent in other places.

Even during slavery, in which marriage was forbidden, most black children were raised with two biological parents.

The black family managed to survive several centuries of slavery and generations of the harshest racism and Jim Crow, to ultimately become destroyed by the welfare state. The black family has fallen victim to the vision fostered by some intellectuals that, in the words of a sociology professor in the 1960s, "it has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes."

The real issue to these intellectuals "is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income."

That suggests that fathers can be replaced by a welfare check.

The weakened black family gives rise to problems such has high crime, predation and other forms of anti-social behavior.”

It's about time for an honest debate about the genesis of a perpetual underclass in many countries in the west.

It's a complex picture and people on the extreme ends of the spectrum (Sharpton et al - it's all economics and racism) all the way along to Bundy/Hannity (it's all cultural behaviour.....and, (sotto voce) lack of intelligence) are as ignorant as each other.

Black people in the USA have been mistreated (and that's a vast understatement) for generations. I think it'd be surprising if the trauma of this mistreatment didn't linger. And so I see nothing wrong with society attempting to address this trauma through vehicles such as educational programmes (school vouchers), housing support, healthcare initiatives, back-to-work schemes (btw the US spends a pitiful amount on this area in comparison with most other post-industrial countries).

In fact as a bleeding liberal, I'm an active proponent of any attempt by government/society at large (choose whichever term you're comfortable with) to encourage people to come together to achieve progress rather than atomise groups of people, particularly on the basis of race or religion.

This having been said, there are major major cultural problems in black America (and in Bangladeshi/Pakistani Britain btw). To deny them is to shut down an honest debate about solutions before you've even started. If you've misdiagnosed the cause, how can you hope to come up with constructive solutions?

It's not easy - black people continue to be disadvantaged in so many ways, and Cliven Bundy and his ilk seem happy to simply point out just how malevolent "negros" are, and leave it at that. They have NOTHING to contribute to the debate other than to stir up grievance from black people about how racist all whites are.

He's a free-loading ignorant hypocrite and those who support him are supporting characteristics absolutely antithetical to everything positive about America.