My problem with stimulants being allowed out of competition aka during practice means that an athlete can utilize the illegal aid to train harder/faster and then show up "clean" at the meet. Concept is same as taking roids on a cycle for months then showing up clean at a meet. WADA and USADA are total hypocrits.
It's time to call absolute BS on the "unlabeled ingredient" excuse. If you are a world class athlete, why on earth would you mess with "supplements." It is a lame excuse and you have to be a f'ing idiot to ingest crap like that.
How could you possibly prove that your only exposure to the offending ingredient was through the tainted supplement?
llort_vbo wrote:
If you are a world class athlete, why on earth would you mess with "supplements."
Because everyone else is a world class athlete too. The goal isn't to be one. It's to be the one that wins. Doing everything you can nutritionally makes sense. I don't know why you're having a hard time understanding that.
Nutrition is not complicated. Only dipsh!ts fall for claims made by GNC. Granted, your average sprinter is a dumba$$, but you'd think the coaches would at least explain this to their charges.
Another innocent athlete framed by jealous Americans (CIA involved?)
Hypocrit city wrote:
My problem with stimulants being allowed out of competition aka during practice means that an athlete can utilize the illegal aid to train harder/faster and then show up "clean" at the meet. Concept is same as taking roids on a cycle for months then showing up clean at a meet. WADA and USADA are total hypocrits.
You do that and you might not see sub 10 some years. Probably wouldn't see sub 9.8 ever again.
Maybe every Jamaican needs to be banned in an extreme case.[/quote]
Well then America would have been banned years ago. 90% of their T&F 'success' is based on sprinters taking steroids
Back dated - he will be able to compete again this December.
If the authorities really want sanctions to make a difference they need sanctions that actually bite.
It should always be at least until after the next Olympics...
Well, he does admit to buying and using Epiphany D1. There's a mistake right there. The "we didn't know " defense is getting a little tiring and is second only to the Mary Slaney/Butch Reynolds defense "it was the alcohol and the sex".
Agreed! Diet is the area of the sport (even more than shoes)where commercial manufacturers make totally unsubstantiated claims in an attempt to part athletes who are desperate to make progress from their money. There is no hard evidence that an athlete even in very hard training needs anything other than a normal healthy diet with possibly a basic multi vitamin tablet that can be purchased very cheaply from your local supermarket.
Powell has to answer the following questions
1) What did he think he was going to gain from the supplement he admits to taking? What did he think it was going to do for him?
2) Why did he allow an , apparently , unqualified person treat him for injuries , administer vitamin injections and advise him on dietary supplements?
not your mom wrote:
Nasty_Nadz wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/26974788if you don't take it, you won't make it
Can anyone imagine now that Usain Bolt isn't drugged out of his mind? (Really, that should have been obvious the instant he ran 9.58, or even 9.69, even forgetting that that was 9.69 showboating.)
Sprintgeezer?
facticity of da sitchiashun wrote:
"Many stadiums are full because of him," Gebrselassie said. "What will happen after Usain Bolt, who will be the next star? How many spectators will come not just to watch (Bolt)? If you don't have Usain Bolt in the next two, three years we will be in trouble."
Ben L Wrong wrote:It's all for the bandwagoners, casual fans, sponsors, etc.
Powell's ban is really unfair, as he said. But this affaire had a negotiation between WADA, JADCO and probably Jamaican Government. Remember...the girl was going to blow the whistle against THE ENTIRE JAMAICAN DRUG TESTING SYSTEM. She knew ALL about Racers Group camp (Bolt, Blake, Weir, etc) She knew too much about Glen Mills, by the way.
Sprintgeezer again?
"How could you possibly prove that your only exposure to the offending ingredient was through the tainted supplement?"
Finally, a poster who asks something other than the most superficial of questions.
Star wrote:
An athlete that carefully dopes can get away with it.
How the Hell do you know that? Because Victor Conte says so? Because you want it to be true? What evidence do you have to support this notion?
I can cite strong evidence to the contrary—the fact that some of the biggest names in the sport, including those who were supervised the Contes of the world, have been caught after spending much less time at the top than Gay and Powell suggests that doping conspiracies tend to come unraveled and that the cheaters really do for the most part get caught.
Guys like Gay and Powell did not hide out in their home countries to avoid drug testers like a few notable dopers. They competed and were tested regularly all around the world for the better part of a decade before getting popped at 30. We have firm knowledge that Gay only recently got mixed up with the dope chiro who probably supplied him with steroids after years of struggling. And Powell only got caught with a minor stimulant. Hardly evidence that either of them have been doped to the gills all along.
So explain the Kersee and Smith groups to us all enlightened one. And please don't tell us talent and hard work.
"Doping Lite", like this sort of stimulant, is more of an indication that an athlete is burnt out. They have been in the sport too long and can not find the motivation to be a full-time athlete anymore. Using some sort of supplement or drug makes them feel like they have to be 100% dedicated with their training and diet otherwise why be using the drug/supplement?
In this way, the drug/supplement seems to be effective, but only because it got them to be 100% serious again.
lol at the manky-toothed hater. Brits are the original dopers - look at Roger Bannister. Think he wasn't dipping in to the pharmas?
mark b wrote:
Powell has to answer the following questions
1) What did he think he was going to gain from the supplement he admits to taking? What did he think it was going to do for him?
2) Why did he allow an , apparently , unqualified person treat him for injuries , administer vitamin injections and advise him on dietary supplements?
Well he's not going to tell you that he was actually deliberately doping
You can skip the tests just check his eyes - they get to the stage where they actually look like they are on recreational drugs. Powell, Gay, Kiprop, Bolt all look stoned
Another clue is acne on the top of the shoulders bit hard to spot now they are all suddenly wearing wide strapped vest
Doclove wrote:
mark b wrote:Powell has to answer the following questions
1) What did he think he was going to gain from the supplement he admits to taking? What did he think it was going to do for him?
2) Why did he allow an , apparently , unqualified person treat him for injuries , administer vitamin injections and advise him on dietary supplements?
Well he's not going to tell you that he was actually deliberately doping
You can skip the tests just check his eyes - they get to the stage where they actually look like they are on recreational drugs. Powell, Gay, Kiprop, Bolt all look stoned
Another clue is acne on the top of the shoulders bit hard to spot now they are all suddenly wearing wide strapped vest
I think you're right. It is pretty obvious - it seems like the sclera gets more yellow and the eyes are bloodshot.
Of course, they're not going to tell you, but it's still important to point out how stupid some of these excuses are. You need ordinary non-track fans to know that you cannot accidentally dope as per Contador. My all time favorites are Dieter Baumann's spiked toothpaste and Tyler Hamilton's evil twin. Powell's explanations are every bit as ridiculous as theirs.