Cuboid Bone and Rupp- Doctors, Podiatrist comment?

That's good information because we now know that Gay got his drugs from a anti-aging quack and NOT his physio or any other real medical professional. Despite your attempt to paint Rubb and Al as dopers you only confirmed that they are not colluding with shady characters.

What happens when you run repeat miles on an indoor track ?

Wexstein was the guy that supposedly gave Gatlin his drugs.

In fact, Wexstein got the crap beat out of him by someone in Nike for doing it.

So, is it relevant information that their current physio was Wexstein's understudy at the time?

You decide.

look up cuboid syndrome or cuboid subluxation

Rupp and cuboid syndrome = Pure BS

yeah i looked it up and it sounds pretty BS

It was his guts that popped out.

I've actually had my cuboid shift/rotate out of place. Quick sharp pain that felt like a stress fracture. One visit to the podiatrist and a wrap and i was 98% pain free. I didn't have any ligament damage and my doctor said he usually sees this condition in people who rapidly increased mileage, his example was boot camp or wearing the wrong shoe. I had only one run on my new shoes, although it was an eight mile run.

Do you think he saw his boss get his butt whipped for something and then go ahead and do the same thing? Seem like he'd learn what not to do.

adsfadsf wrote:

yeah i looked it up and it sounds pretty BS

Sounds like BS? In what way?

It actually sounds about right. Risk factors included: "poorly fitting footwear, physical exercise, inadequate recovery from physical activity"

Under treatment: "Once diagnosed, a medical professional may treat cuboid syndrome by realigning (also known as reducing) the subluxed cuboid unless contraindications to manipulation are present" and "Fortunately, subluxed cuboids are generally quite treatable[4] and most patients return to a normal level of activity once the pain is brought under control"

Do mean to say that they just made up a story, or the the named issue is not a real condition and they just cooked that up too?

Pretty funny that any other distance runner can get injured to any degree without mention, but if Rupp has something it's "BS".

The cuboid can be popped back in fairly easily,not a serious injury, though there may be peroneal tendon issues associated; still, my guess is the DNF was planned.

dsrunner wrote:

The cuboid can be popped back in fairly easily,not a serious injury, though there may be peroneal tendon issues associated; still, my guess is the DNF was planned.

What is the benefit of planning a DNF?

After all of the heat from Virgin over the last couple of weeks, Al Sal didn't want any more heat with yet another record being broken. DNF was the plan.AlSal - wonderboy should do his amazing repeat miles, post record setting runs, in a discrete location so as to not draw too much attention; however, the cat is obviously out of the bag.

dsrunner wrote:

The cuboid can be popped back in fairly easily,not a serious injury, though there may be peroneal tendon issues associated; still, my guess is the DNF was planned.

Could a new pair spikes altering the foot strike cause

subluxation of the cuboid. Yep

I understand cuboid syndrome. But nothing I've read says immediate return to activity, let alone immediate return to 8km of intervals on an indoor track.

Rupp doesn't have, and never did have, cuboid syndrome.

I am a bit surprised they would just have a physio do an adjustment and not get imaging done (or maybe they did). If it is a stress fracture, continued training could mean a very long layoff and possibly a non-union fracture, which can mean surgery.

fred wrote:

http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45365&do=videos&video_id=104275

Could a new pair spikes altering the foot strike cause

subluxation of the cuboid. Yep

He looked ready to move when he dropped out.

In 1998 I was a member of the US Military World XC Team. (Long Course)Because we were selected for the team based on our running resumes, (no trials) I didn't have any races in a pair of XC Spikes. I was sent a pair from my shoe sponsor that fit a tad on the tight side, but I didn't think it was a big deal, just one 12k race. My feet didn't like the spikes at all during the race and Mid way thru the last 2k lap I landed awkwardly coming up a small incline and felt a "pop" in my left foot followed by a pretty sharp pain. I limped home and went to the medical tent to get the foot looked at. The doctor (from the host country of Ireland) looked at it, said something about a dislocated bone and popped it back into place. The pain relief was instant and I was able to run a cool down with very little discomfort. I also did a long run the next day.

Now I don't know if this is what happened to Rupp, but I know that it can happen.