Huddle's World Best! :Where Does it Rank?

Don't know or care where this figures in Huddle's career.

The fact is that if an American woman breaks a world best, it was by definition an incredibly soft world record.

I'm not on my computer so I can't look at a conversion calculator.

It ranks as a very good run. I'll tell you that much. Rojo said the conditions were near perfect and huddle took advantage.

Congrats to Molly.

Compared to other world bests:

10k - 30:21 - 4:53/mile

15k - 46:28 - 4:59/mile

Half-Mara - 65:50 - 5:01/mile

http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/10-kilometres/outdoor/women/senior

37:50 converts to 31:08 10km, 48:02 15km and 1:09:10 1/2 marathon

wejo wrote:

I'm not on my computer so I can't look at a conversion calculator.

It ranks as a very good run. I'll tell you that much. Rojo said the conditions were near perfect and huddle took advantage.

Congrats to Molly.{B]SECONDED

AR for women's 10k: 31:06. Jennings, '90

Go Geb wrote:

Compared to other world bests:

10k - 30:21 - 4:53/mile

15k - 46:28 - 4:59/mile

Half-Mara - 65:50 - 5:01/mile

http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/10-kilometres/outdoor/women/senior

So in other words, this 12k world best is slower than the record for almost twice that distance.

This is like a 6k world best that is slower than the WR 10k pace.

Great PR for Huddle but our distance woman have a long way to come.

As do others if it was a world best.

Not a race distance run all that often, especially elswhere in the world. It is a XC distance for the men (at worlds), apart from that I don't know many races of a high calibre at that distance other than a few. 4 milers are also not that frequent either - 6km is a womens XC distance for University, it must be rare as a stand-alone road-race at the elite level - so it wouldn't surprise me if the WR pace wasn't much faster than that for 10km.

skoolhouse arts wrote:

AR for women's 10k: 31:06. Jennings, '90

The calculator I normally use ranks it at 31:08 for 10-K, so it's similar to Jennings's AR, above.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Go Geb wrote:

Compared to other world bests:

10k - 30:21 - 4:53/mile

15k - 46:28 - 4:59/mile

Half-Mara - 65:50 - 5:01/mile

http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/10-kilometres/outdoor/women/senior

So in other words, this 12k world best is slower than the record for almost twice that distance.

This is like a 6k world best that is slower than the WR 10k pace.

Great PR for Huddle but our distance woman have a long way to come.

Also... if the half marathon world best is 5:01 per mile, then Molly's race wasn't actually a world best because someone ran a faster 12k segment en-route to a 1/2 marathon. The fact that it's considered a 'world's best' means it's not ratified in any way - meaning that there's no official standard other than the fact that it's supposedly the fastest someone ever ran 12k - in the case of Molly's race, it wasn't actually the fastest anyone has ever run 12k.

Run007xx wrote:

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

So in other words, this 12k world best is slower than the record for almost twice that distance.

This is like a 6k world best that is slower than the WR 10k pace.

Great PR for Huddle but our distance woman have a long way to come.

Also... if the half marathon world best is 5:01 per mile, then Molly's race wasn't actually a world best because someone ran a faster 12k segment en-route to a 1/2 marathon. The fact that it's considered a 'world's best' means it's not ratified in any way - meaning that there's no official standard other than the fact that it's supposedly the fastest someone ever ran 12k - in the case of Molly's race, it wasn't actually the fastest anyone has ever run 12k.

The 15k would theoretically had a faster first 12k than the half.

In terms of road race appearance money, I'd say that a world record (world best) ranks ahead of an American record on the track. Race directors want to promote their event with a reigning world record holder in the field.

With no world champs on the track next year, it would make sense for Huddle to cash in and do a few more road races.

She ran the 5k in the B.A.A. series this year, but in 2014 it could make sense for her to run the whole series. Her training partner is defending champion Kim Smith, but Kim might run a spring marathon instead.

Very good race and pace for Molly. Compared to Molly's other best times:It equates (Purdy) to 14:50.76 for 5K, a little slower than her 14:44.76 US record (on the track).It equates to 31:07.8 for 10K, somewhat better than her PB of 31:27.12 (from 2008 on the track).Equal pace for 10K would be 31:31.67 and her 10K split was 31:40, close to her PB.US record for 10K (road) is 31:06 by Lynn Jennings (?)Women's 12K times generally look weak, even by US standards.Deena Kastor ran 47:14.2 for 15K.Equal pace puts that at 37:47.36 for 12K.Equivalent performance is 37:12.26.Her equivalent time of 48:02.34 would put her in second.For a world standard comparison, Tirunesh Dibaba ran 46:27.7 for 15K.Equal pace is 37:10.16 and equivalent performance is 36:35.80.

1+2+3+4 wrote:

Congrats to Molly on the 37:50 World's Best.

That's 5:05 pace according to the results.

How does this compare to some of the other things she's done in her career?

Run007xx wrote:

Also... if the half marathon world best is 5:01 per mile, then Molly's race wasn't actually a world best because someone ran a faster 12k segment en-route to a 1/2 marathon.

...it wasn't actually the fastest anyone has ever run 12k.

Good point.

long sox wrote:

With no world champs on the track next year, it would make sense for Huddle to cash in and do a few more road races.

There is a world champs next year.

ooek wrote:

There is a world champs next year.

Really? Where, when? World Relays is not the same as World Championships.

Runcogrun wrote:

ooek wrote:

There is a world champs next year.

Really? Where, when? World Relays is not the same as World Championships.

In Poland in March.

There are two IAAF World Championships in 2014:

World Indoors - Sopot, Poland - March

World Half Marathon - Copenhagen - March

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Run007xx wrote:

Also... if the half marathon world best is 5:01 per mile, then Molly's race wasn't actually a world best because someone ran a faster 12k segment en-route to a 1/2 marathon.

...it wasn't actually the fastest anyone has ever run 12k.

Good point.

Unless the half-marathon and 15k were done with fast opening and closing sections. It's possible neither race was done with 12k faster than Molly's.

World indoor- Budapest

David Katz wrote:

There are two IAAF World Championships in 2014:

World Indoors - Sopot, Poland - March

World Half Marathon - Copenhagen - March