I don't think it's necessarily a case of if Salazar's dirty, all of his athletes (including Ritz) are dirty. If you were in Salazar's position and truly diabolical, it would make sense to have some clean runners to make you seem more believable.
I don't think it's necessarily a case of if Salazar's dirty, all of his athletes (including Ritz) are dirty. If you were in Salazar's position and truly diabolical, it would make sense to have some clean runners to make you seem more believable.
A Duck wrote:
Don't worry folks, I've just been busy, I'll be back with a reply...
I'll get the popcorn!
A Duck wrote: Don't worry folks, I've just been busy, I'll be back with a reply...[/quote]
txRUNNERgirl wrote: I'll get the popcorn![/quote]
You better have several bags ready. A Duck has posted more than 30 long replies in a single night, to a single thread. A Duck is a nocturnal being. Part owl, maybe. Part Ostrich for sure.
Sagarin,
You don't need a TUE for thyroid medication.
You need a TUE for an asthma inhaler which most definitely can be used as a performance enhancer.
malmo wrote:
Uh, A Duck I was trying to respond to your obsessive and crazy ramblings when your thread and many sockpupperts disappeared. Here's what I had written. I'll expect to hear from you and Alberto tomorrow.
A Duck wrote:He kept that full last prescription all those years...
Actually. It was a half full bottle. Many of the elite runners who've passed through Eugene over the decades have seen it.
A Duck, since you proclaim to be so close to Alberto, why don't you give him a call and ask him about the long discussion I had with him about Dr Smulovitz and Alberto's BMW. Please call him, and ask him how that conversation went? Thank you. Maybe I should just renege a good faith agreement with Alberto and just reveal everything I know. After all, you're Alberto's spokesman aren't you? I really don't like going back on my word, but since it's OK with you, and for the betterment of the sport, maybe I should?
You are so obsessed with me, and so protective of anything Oregon or Nike, that you cannot see the truth, which has be thoroughly vetted by those who were around during the day, and so convinced that I am the directorate of some massive conspiracy that's you've wasted thousands of hours with your episodic posts.
Why don't you call your close friend Alberto and conference me into the conversation so that we call talk. You do have his personal phone number don't you? He has mine.... or, since that's something you can't do, you can email me and I can give you a complete list of facts, or in your crazy double talk "lies" if that's what you really want to call them. Or since none of the above will be acceptable, maybe we could just start an email roundtable including everyone who actually knows what was going in the day (Alberto, Phil, Dick Brown, Bob Sevene, Stewert Togher etc... and few curious reporters from SI, BBC and WSJ etc), and have a discussion, and once and for all sort out all of the facts (or "lies" if you wish) regarding the AW/UO/Eugene running and drugs scene? Surely if we can get a distribution email list of 30-40 choice people to participate we can sort this all out?
My email is [first name/last name]@verizon.net send me your email and I'll include you in the conversation.
A little bit busy right now, but tomorrow I think that I'll fill in some of the blanks about facts and timelines that you don't understand. Information that was collected and given to various reporters over the years and also to the head IAAF attorney in 1997. Or maybe I should give a complete list of names of people and what they know and what questions to ask which people.
Of course, you're a crazy man, and any facts that don't agree with a lunatic are lies. I get it.
For those who watched the recent Mary Slaney/Zola Budd documentary, it was Dick Brown who was in the cart with Slaney as she got carted out of the stadium at LA 1984. Brown, who appeared in that Ben Jonson documentary, was the architect of the Athletics West drug program laughably saying, "we were only giving out information." He was also Mary'smcoach for awhile.
Yeah, I think that tomorrow I'll try to fill in some of the blanks. Give Alberto a call, A Duck. I'll be waiting for that conference call.
I now believe Alberto and his gang are dirty. Someone copy and paste this just incase something happens.
in the know.... wrote:
Sagarin,
You don't need a TUE for thyroid medication.
You need a TUE for an asthma inhaler which most definitely can be used as a performance enhancer.
I didn't think a TUE was necessary for an asthma inhaler, unless the rules have changed in the last year or so? Does Farah use an inhaler? Ritz? I've inferred from reading many posts that people think the thyroid medication is giving a micro-dose of epo...
Best thread here in a long time - make it sticky BroJos. I'd like to hear about "back in the day" as well as what goes on at NOP. But I think I have a good idea of both.
A Duck is unhinged.
Bte wrote:
Best thread here in a long time - make it sticky BroJos. I'd like to hear about "back in the day" as well as what goes on at NOP. But I think I have a good idea of both.
Yeah we all want to hear how drugs are a requirement for success.
Btw who exactly is the sponsor of this thread?
It does not appear that Malmo is hiding from anyone as the thread Subject reads. But I do feel like A Duck who claims to be a NOP insider has hid from the issues constantly.
A Duck,
If TUE's are necessary and are not for the purpose of enhancing performance, then why won't Rupp come forward with his? Afterall it is all legal.
Bookmarked for tomorrow. Hoping this will still be here.
Sagarin wrote:
in the know.... wrote:Sagarin,
You don't need a TUE for thyroid medication.
You need a TUE for an asthma inhaler which most definitely can be used as a performance enhancer.
I didn't think a TUE was necessary for an asthma inhaler, unless the rules have changed in the last year or so? Does Farah use an inhaler? Ritz? I've inferred from reading many posts that people think the thyroid medication is giving a micro-dose of epo...
T3 and T4 will catabolize any non-essential fat or even muscle beyond which a normal metabolism ever would. It's how bodybuilders get super low body fat, and I'm sure it helps cyclists get to the crazy power to weight ratios we've seen lately. The supposed uptick in RBC production is at best a secondary benefit. It's not easy to be 6 feet tall and under 140 lbs., especially without East African genetics.
I have made a concerted effort to avoid addressing A Duck directly or commenting about his posts indirectly. I've done this for obvious reasons, as I've been around long enough to know who and what to avoid in this life to have less stress/anger in it. The obsessive, overprotective, and at times delusional nature of some folks can not be countered with rational dialogue. Because in their world, there is no room or concept of rational thinking.
Someone mentioned the anonymity of A Duck. While I'm perfectly okay with people not wanting to blow their cover on the internet, there are a number of issues about this poster that I seriously believe warrants his identity being exposed. Most concerning, is his aggressive, obsessive, and pathological "drive" to go at severe lengths of attacking others which significantly and immediately increases when he disagrees with anything associated with Oregon, Nike, or the NOP. It's different from the trolls who visit: it's a calculating, specific, and dangerous sense of defense that seems bizarre to say the least. I've often wondered if this person is contracted by someone with NOP ties to peruse the internet and vehemently defend/attack anything that may risk the integrity of NOP/Nike/Oregon. Seriously, what is the motivation behind the actions? And most of all, he has commented on more than one occasion about the impending lawsuit that is headed in the direction of LRC. There are two things that immediately catches my attention: someone threatening with a weapon and someone threatening with a lawsuit. Those call for immediate and severe reactions.
Malmo, bullies have to be dealt with. They don't go away quietly and they will not stop until they absolutely destroy you. The slandering, bizarre, and calculating posts that has been happening here and what has been happening here for too long is no difference. Since this thread was started to "out" all of the information, please, keep the dialogue open to this board so we can all have the privilege of experiencing the truth, once and for all.
malmo wrote:
Uh, A Duck I was trying to respond to your obsessive and crazy ramblings when your thread and many sockpupperts disappeared. Here's what I had written. I'll expect to hear from you and Alberto tomorrow.
A Duck wrote:He kept that full last prescription all those years...
Actually. It was a half full bottle. Many of the elite runners who've passed through Eugene over the decades have seen it.
A Duck, since you proclaim to be so close to Alberto, why don't you give him a call and ask him about the long discussion I had with him about Dr Smulovitz and Alberto's BMW. Please call him, and ask him how that conversation went? Thank you. Maybe I should just renege a good faith agreement with Alberto and just reveal everything I know. After all, you're Alberto's spokesman aren't you? I really don't like going back on my word, but since it's OK with you, and for the betterment of the sport, maybe I should?
You are so obsessed with me, and so protective of anything Oregon or Nike, that you cannot see the truth, which has be thoroughly vetted by those who were around during the day, and so convinced that I am the directorate of some massive conspiracy that's you've wasted thousands of hours with your episodic posts.
Why don't you call your close friend Alberto and conference me into the conversation so that we call talk. You do have his personal phone number don't you? He has mine.... or, since that's something you can't do, you can email me and I can give you a complete list of facts, or in your crazy double talk "lies" if that's what you really want to call them. Or since none of the above will be acceptable, maybe we could just start an email roundtable including everyone who actually knows what was going in the day (Alberto, Phil, Dick Brown, Bob Sevene, Stewert Togher etc... and few curious reporters from SI, BBC and WSJ etc), and have a discussion, and once and for all sort out all of the facts (or "lies" if you wish) regarding the AW/UO/Eugene running and drugs scene? Surely if we can get a distribution email list of 30-40 choice people to participate we can sort this all out?
My email is [first name/last name]@verizon.net send me your email and I'll include you in the conversation.
A little bit busy right now, but tomorrow I think that I'll fill in some of the blanks about facts and timelines that you don't understand. Information that was collected and given to various reporters over the years and also to the head IAAF attorney in 1997. Or maybe I should give a complete list of names of people and what they know and what questions to ask which people.
Of course, you're a crazy man, and any facts that don't agree with a lunatic are lies. I get it.
For those who watched the recent Mary Slaney/Zola Budd documentary, it was Dick Brown who was in the cart with Slaney as she got carted out of the stadium at LA 1984. Brown, who appeared in that Ben Jonson documentary, was the architect of the Athletics West drug program laughably saying, "we were only giving out information." He was also Mary'smcoach for awhile.
Yeah, I think that tomorrow I'll try to fill in some of the blanks. Give Alberto a call, A Duck. I'll be waiting for that conference call.
Good morning, George:
I knew you could be pushed over the edge. Your ego would demand it. It was just a matter of time. Predictable.
You've confessed. Excellent!
Your next step is to apologize publicly.
Now we know it is true, that your past libel and defamation here, against Mr. Salazar, has been a major part of fueling further years and years of relentless lies, libel and defamation against Mr. Salazar and his athletes and associates.
You can't possibly be proud of your part in fueling years and years of endless specious attacks on Salazar and Rupp.
I don't care about your rerun of all the AW stuff.
My focus here is ONE thing.
Your smear attack on ONE person and the ripple effect it has had to cause hurt in many other lives.
You speak of "crazy."
What's crazy is using a car in a parking lot to implicate ONE person to having done what you have done.
What's crazy is using a car in a parking lot to implicate ONE person to having done what you have done.
What's crazy is using a car in a parking lot to implicate ONE person to having done what you have done.
Does that make it simple enough?
Answer me two questions George Malley:
Have you EVER posted anything negative here towards Alberto and any of his athletes under a different user name or handle other than "Malmo"? And if so, what are those handles?
Have you EVER posted anything negative here towards Alberto and any of his athletes while under the influence of alcohol and/or using a different handle other than "Malmo"? And if so, what are those handles?
You think I don't know about your phone call with Alberto?
I've known about it for a long time.
Do you think you'd be told anything different on another call?
I've got a much better offer. You want a phone call? I suggest a phone call between Nike legal, yourself, Robert and Weldon Johnson, and I'll be happy to join in, in fact -- I'll invite a few other folks and we'll see if we can really get something accomplished.
The Brojo's know how to reach me.
(haters, don't bother, won't be reading any replies other than George Malley's)
I do not know the situation at NOP or what evidence Malmo has against Salazar. If he has real evidence then he needs to turn it over. People can defend Malmo all they want but until he produces some of his evidence then I am with A Duck
the thyroid is used in synergy with growth hormone
http://thinksteroids.com/articles/thyroid-hormone-growth-hormone/
they microdose epo and still fly under the ABP radar no problem
sarms too for that kick on the last lap
not from oregon wrote:
I do not know the situation at NOP or what evidence Malmo has against Salazar. If he has real evidence then he needs to turn it over. People can defend Malmo all they want but until he produces some of his evidence then I am with A Duck
Thanks, appreciated.
It's an upside down world on the internet when so many of you can live with athletes being lied about, libeled, smeared, defamed, daily, repeatedly.
Put yourself in those athletes shoes for a while.
Lol. Yeah, all the negative stuff about Rupp that has appeared on these boards, that's all malmo's doing. The rest of us are as pure as undriven snow.
If this conference call is arranged, can I get the dial-in number?
"'ve got a much better offer. You want a phone call? I suggest a phone call between Nike legal, yourself, Robert and Weldon Johnson, and I'll be happy to join in, in fact -- I'll invite a few other folks and we'll see if we can really get something accomplished."
Unfortunitely we don't have the facts of either case, but one thing I can say is kudos to Malmo for not hiding.
It appears A Duck is taking plays out of the Lance Armstrong deny until blue in the face play book.
A Duck be a man/woman and quit hiding behind your handle.
p.s. hopefully I didn't say anything "slanderous" I'd hate to get a call form Nike legal.