ghost of harry groves wrote:
It was nice of Coach D to show up AFTER the race to tell us what he knew was going to happen BEFORE the race
But I guess he was too busy coaching his college team and couldn't post before the race
How many athletes you got at the WCs Coach D?
A Duck wrote:
Symmonds confirms that he went out too fast and it cost him:
Symmonds post race:
"...I was right there with a hundred to go...I flipped the switch on the homestretch and gave it everything I had and the HOT PACE KINDA GRIPPED MY LEGS with 20 to go and I couldn't quite get to that line..."
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251036-IAAF-World-Championships-Moscow-2013-Interviews-Races/video/719336-Nick-Symmonds-finally-gets-his-global-medal-in-800-at-Moscow-World-Champs-2013?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Sounds a lot like he is saying he went out to fast and it cost him the win/gold.
I'm happy that he went for it, and I'm happy that he got a medal.
I just would have been happier if he had been less keyed up, a tad less aggressive, run on the rail like Aman, and had it in the last 30 meters.
Le tour wrote:
Everyone who knows just the tiny amount about 800m knew Aman was the clear favourite. coach d can go from posting good comments to sometimes posting moronic comments on A Duck level, but this time he is correct.
Let's just say that Nick Symmonds utilized the best possible tactics on this day, based on his history. He has never once won a medal -
800 Metres
Rank
Mark
Wind
Place
Date
14th IAAF World Championships
2
1:43.55
Moskva (Luzhniki)
13 AUG 2013
The XXX Olympic Games
5
1:42.95
London (OP)
09 AUG 2012
13th IAAF World Championships in Athletics
5
1:45.12
Daegu
30 AUG 2011
IAAF/VTB Bank Continental Cup 2010
5
1:44.98
Split
05 SEP 2010
IAAF/VTB Bank World Athletics Final
6
1:46.19
Thessaloniki
12 SEP 2009
12th IAAF World Championships in Athletics
6
1:45.71
Berlin
23 AUG 2009
The XXIX Olympic Games
5sf1
1:46.96
Beijing (National Stadium)
21 AUG 2008
12th IAAF World Indoor Championships
6
1:46.48
Valencia, ESP
09 MAR 2008
11th IAAF World Championships in Athletics
6sf2
1:46.41
Osaka
31 AUG 2007
its all over nick pack it up wrote:
Symmonds blew it, he might as well retire, this was his big chance for gold and he went out 1.5 seconds fast in the first lap.
_This wrote:
No, the sad reality is that you are a mindless tweak with a dumb assed handle.
LISTEN TO NICK'S OWN WORDS - HE WENT OUT TOO FAST AND IT COST HIM IN THE LAST 50, 20.
HE LAYS IT OUT HIMSELF SUCCINCTLY AND ELOQUENTLY:
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251036-IAAF-World-Championships-Moscow-2013-Interviews-Races/video/719336-Nick-Symmonds-finally-gets-his-global-medal-in-800-at-Moscow-World-Champs-2013?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
A Duck wrote:
Symmonds confirms that he went out too fast and it cost him:
Symmonds post race:
"...I was right there with a hundred to go...I flipped the switch on the homestretch and gave it everything I had and the HOT PACE KINDA GRIPPED MY LEGS with 20 to go and I couldn't quite get to that line..."
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251036-IAAF-World-Championships-Moscow-2013-Interviews-Races/video/719336-Nick-Symmonds-finally-gets-his-global-medal-in-800-at-Moscow-World-Champs-2013?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Sounds a lot like he is saying he went out to fast and it cost him the win/gold.
I'm happy that he went for it, and I'm happy that he got a medal.
I just would have been happier if he had been less keyed up, a tad less aggressive, run on the rail like Aman, and had it in the last 30 meters.
By the way, Symmonds was 6th at the 200. The only two runners off the pace at that point were Lewandowski and Osagie. They finished 4th and 5th. They looked great in the final 100, though.
It's always dicey to change one variable in a race and assume everything else plays out exactly the same. Symmonds ran a great race and almost took it. He only lost significant ground to Aman and Souleiman in the last 50m with Lewandowski gaining some. However, other than Aman, he finished as far or farther ahead of everyone else close relative to their positions with 100m to go. If he goes out slower maybe he wins, but maybe he's left closing too late with Souliman. I don't know that Symmonds ran the perfect race, but there are too many variables in a championship race to really know what that is. If he makes his move with 100m to go and Aman ties up, he'd be a genius. He ran a very strong race and almost pulled it off, losing to a guy with a superior PR. Nothing to be ashamed of.
A Duck wrote:
He then went and did exactly what he said was suicidal for him, he went out in 24ish and then paid for it in the last 30meters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR0SVCbS_bI
hayward102 wrote:
He also said after the race "In the last few finals I said, I'm going to ignore the other runners and just focus on running a 2 second differential, and I always found myself in traffic with 150m to go, and today I said forget time, if it happens it happens, but make sure you have a clear shot to the final with 100 to go, no matter what it takes, and it cost me a little bit in the last 20 meters, but I put myself in there. I have no idea what would have happened if I'd been buried in 5th with 100 to go."
I think his quote is right on. Some races you can look at and say "that was definitely bad strategy". I don't think this is one of those races.
Barakus Obama wrote:
A Duck wrote:
Symmonds confirms that he went out too fast and it cost him:
Symmonds post race:
"...I was right there with a hundred to go...I flipped the switch on the homestretch and gave it everything I had and the HOT PACE KINDA GRIPPED MY LEGS with 20 to go and I couldn't quite get to that line..."
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/251036-IAAF-World-Championships-Moscow-2013-Interviews-Races/video/719336-Nick-Symmonds-finally-gets-his-global-medal-in-800-at-Moscow-World-Champs-2013?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Sounds a lot like he is saying he went out to fast and it cost him the win/gold.
I'm happy that he went for it, and I'm happy that he got a medal.
I just would have been happier if he had been less keyed up, a tad less aggressive, run on the rail like Aman, and had it in the last 30 meters.
1. You are seeing what you want to see.
2. Dont try to pretend you are happy for Symmonds, at best you would be happy for American track and field getting a gold in the 800m. You have shown absolutely no respect for Symmonds, and behave towards him like the idiot trolls do against Rupp.
A Duck, I lost all respect for you today. Shame on you Bence. I'm legitimately upset you praise golden boy Rupp for silver and bash Symmonds for an incredible Silver. Shame on you.
Oregon is ashamed of you wrote:
A Duck, I lost all respect for you today. Shame on you Bence. I'm legitimately upset you praise golden boy Rupp for silver and bash Symmonds for an incredible Silver. Shame on you.
A Duck: Around the 2:00 mark in that interview Symmonds talks about sacrificing time for position because in previous championships he always found himself in traffic with 100-150 to go and it cost him.
Today Symmonds went out under 25 for the first 200... and was still in 6th. In London he trailed the field at 200 (running low 25.x) and paid for it by having to make up ground and run through traffic the last 100.
Today he put himself in the best position possible to win the gold medal, but he was simply 2nd best today. Silver ain't bad. Did you ever score 8 points or more at the pac-8 championships?
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
Symmonds went out in 6th place at 200m, which hardly seems likely to have been low 24. He may have moved a little too hard to the bell to catch Solomon, because you only get one move in an 800m, but this was the first time he ever put himself in position to medal in a world or Olympic race and it worked. Aman was going to win that race once he got out of the box as long as it was over 1:43. Had Solomon even been able to equal his season best (1:43.27), he would have had the victory and of course both Solomon and Symmonds ran sub 1:43 last year, so they could have used that strength today.
I hope nick smashes aduck's face and does a tap dance on that filthy cheating druggie elf rupp's head
Adam C wrote:
I agree! I'm happy that Symmonds won silver! Here's guy that no major college wanted, goes to a DIII school and just works his butt of for years, wins a bunch of 800m national titles, and now all his hard work has paid off with a WC silver.
He was always very talented! So he matured late.
Flo'da boy wrote:
Symmonds didn't lose. He got beat.
That is honorable and we should all be proud.
He made a smart tactical decision based on the situation. If not perfect it was valley and it was his best chance. Their are no perfect races, no ideal runs with perfect drafting and rail hugging and weather conditions. There is just blood sweat and chance.
Nick has put in consistent effort for years and years and remained strong and never got injured. Others were hurt. So what? It's like when people say 'he would have won if he hadn't tripped over the hurdle.' Getting over the hurdle is part of the race.
Congrats to Nick can't wait to see more in 8 and even more on the 15.
And I know we'll see more good stuff from Solomon and Johnson.
Maybe they'll chase the record soon
