USA women DESTROY Monaco 1500!

Montesquieu wrote:

Actually, instead of playing make believe, let's consider what happened. At the bell, Martinez was in fourth place, but practically even with the third place girl. Also, she would admit she didn't run the smartest of races, since she was out in lane 2 around several turns, and got tripped down the backstretch of the penultimate lap and lost three places and about two meters. It was still a great performance by her--that is, the one that actually took place.

Here's the race:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaG0FjXhiDU

She may have ran a poor race tactically, but it's still a big PR and a great time. If she can improve her tactics for worlds she may be able to some damage in the 800.

To say that Cory Mcgee has no business being on the team is a ridiculous and ignorant statement. She has every right to be on the team as she qualified. Thank you very much. Where do some of you get this stuff?

alanson wrote:

Jenny Simpson is the antidote to "sit and kick". We saw this early in the season in Des Moines also. Do you think American WC entries would include Cain, Moser or McGee if Jenny had run in the USA 1500 championship?

Maybe McGee would not be the last qualifier but Cain and moser almost def and someone else...it could very well have been those three based on how everyone else was running.

That's why I said, "It was a great performance by her." And I think she can do well at Worlds, but it might require some change in tactics. For example, if her semi goes out very slowly and she hangs in the back, as has been her style, that could cause problems. But she has been finishing so well that she always has a chance.

Come on mayne wrote:

Montesquieu wrote:

Actually, instead of playing make believe, let's consider what happened. At the bell, Martinez was in fourth place, but practically even with the third place girl. Also, she would admit she didn't run the smartest of races, since she was out in lane 2 around several turns, and got tripped down the backstretch of the penultimate lap and lost three places and about two meters. It was still a great performance by her--that is, the one that actually took place.

Here's the race:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaG0FjXhiDU

She may have ran a poor race tactically, but it's still a big PR and a great time. If she can improve her tactics for worlds she may be able to some damage in the 800.

Thanks for the link!

Wow, painful to watch Anderson run--another one of those rigid upright-torso runners...

thereisatime wrote:

McGee might not have made it in a faster race, but she definitely proved that she belongs on the team.

True dat.

I knew that but it was so trivial I didn't bother to put it.

Loved Jenny switching gears at 200 to go!

USA rocks the 1500 wrote:

4 in the top 5, all in 4:00-4:01, not including Moser or Cain...

U.S. women bringing back the metric Mile too. Brava!

real old guy wrote:

Love Jenny

fixed

Ah Ha wrote:

To say that Cory Mcgee has no business being on the team is a ridiculous and ignorant statement. She has every right to be on the team as she qualified. Thank you very much. Where do some of you get this stuff?

That's true. Rowbury had a bad day. But who do you think has a better chance to medal in the 1500? My money would be on Rowbury.

Doped to the Gills.

Rowbury is running only the 5000 bc McGee ran the standard correct?

bladerunner wrote:

Ah Ha wrote:

To say that Cory Mcgee has no business being on the team is a ridiculous and ignorant statement. She has every right to be on the team as she qualified. Thank you very much. Where do some of you get this stuff?

That's true. Rowbury had a bad day. But who do you think has a better chance to medal in the 1500? My money would be on Rowbury.

So true. The final at nationals was a joke. It wasn't a 1500m race. It was a 200m race. If Rowbury would have wound up the pace with 800 to go (since no one else wanted to) she would have weeded out the weaker runners (yes, that includes McGee).

Why do I say this? Because McGee just ran a race in Belgium where she got the B standard. That race was about the same pace with 400 to go as the race in Monaco. Instead of closing the last 400 in 59-61 like the USA ladies did in Monaco, McGee closed in 67+. She faded terribly in the last lap because she couldn't handle the hot pace.

There is no doubt that Rowbury would be a much better representative for the USA at 1500m over McGee. McGee needs to run a lot stronger than she has to prove me wrong.

Now it will be interesting to see how Rowbury does at 5000m in Moscow. After today, I think she could be the top American in that event, but the Africans are going to be hard to medal against at that distance.

Faith Kipyegon, who's run a high 3:56 this year, had been listed for that 1500. Wonder what happened.

McGee just ran a race in Belgium where she got the B standard. That race was about the same pace with 400 to go as the race in Monaco. Instead of closing the last 400 in 59-61 like the USA ladies did in Monaco, McGee closed in 67+. She faded terribly in the last lap because she couldn't handle the hot pace

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Agreed. I don't think she'll make to the WC 1500 finals.

But for a comparison, let's remember what level Brenda was at before her senior year at UCR. 4 years later she is performing at a world level. Cory has many years to develop the strength for a strong last lap. I'm sure that Cory and her coach are quite happy with her performances so far this year.

I love the way Jenny put herself at the front, commiting herself to running a strong race. As always, Shannon Rowbury was also at the front but was simply outrun on the last lap. Brenda did not run a smart overall race but she was right there at the gun lap. It just seemed that she had to work more than necessary to put herself in that position. Regardless, Jenny was determined to win and probably there was nothing anyone could have done tactically to change the outcome.

Come on mayne wrote:

She may have ran a poor race tactically, but it's still a big PR and a great time. If she can improve her tactics for worlds she may be able to some damage in the 800.

"Tactics" in the 800?

The 800 is more dumb luck than anything else.

She's in great shape right now. Couldn't ask for anything else.

"Tactics" in the 800?

The 800 is more dumb luck than anything else

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Of course there are tactics.

The first hurdle is getting through the rounds and into the final without expending more energy than necessary.

Presumably, the final will have a slew of jostling runners into and out of the final turn. Positioning throughout the last lap is vital, I would think, if a runner intends to place.

In a single race like the DL, I agree. I just hope Cain has the strength to get through the rounds in the 1500 and have that same pop and acceleration in the Final.