Here are the standards for the general population for 1 repetition max for bench press and leg press.
http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/hhp/fahey7e/labs/fahey_lab_04_01.pdf
98th percentile for bench press is 1.75 lbs/pound body weight (male)
98th percentile for leg press is 2.81 lbs/pound body weight (male)
Does anyone have any idea what strength standards actually are for elite hs, college, or pro runners?
Percy Cerutty said it in the 1950s, Barry Ross says it now . Deadlift 2x bodyweight, and then you are strong enough to need coaching, and intelligent decisions about where to put your energy. Until that point, getting stronger will always make you run faster.
Arete wrote:
Here are the standards for the general population for 1 repetition max for bench press and leg press.
http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/hhp/fahey7e/labs/fahey_lab_04_01.pdf98th percentile for bench press is 1.75 lbs/pound body weight (male)
98th percentile for leg press is 2.81 lbs/pound body weight (male)
Does anyone have any idea what strength standards actually are for elite hs, college, or pro runners?
The standards for runners are likely significantly less.
Just thinking about how much someone like Lagat or Rupp can bench makes me lol. Then again, they don't give a crap about lifting weights, so more power to them.
Less??
I do nothing, no weights for legs, and I'm at 3.3. I'm assuming competitive runners do something and are stronger than I am.
Does anyone actually KNOW?
I thought Salazar couldn't believe how weak Farah was before he came to him, and worked on strength with the now gold medalist.
eurodonkey wrote:
Percy Cerutty said it in the 1950s, Barry Ross says it now . Deadlift 2x bodyweight, and then you are strong enough to need coaching, and intelligent decisions about where to put your energy. Until that point, getting stronger will always make you run faster.
Wrong, just like most of what those two say. Mike Young (Level III Coaching Instructor for USATF among many other things) make the point that getting stronger makes you faster up to a point, and that point is where gaining more strength requires you to devote more resources to the gym instead of the track, and at that point getting stronger makes you slower. That point is different for a Joe Falcon than for a Galen Rupp or for a Sebastian Coe, and also different for a Usain Bolt than for a Linford Christie (700 pound box squats) or a Shawn Crawford (400+ pound bench).
It also matters where in periodization strength is measured, but what matters is improvement, not some idiotic figure of merit that probably has little relevance to any particular individual.
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Arete wrote:
I thought Salazar couldn't believe how weak Farah was before he came to him, and worked on strength with the now gold medalist.
He was very weak, and also very good at distance running.
There is a balance but the ability to break 30 for the 10k and lift 3x bw are different things.