To OP, if you didn't embellish on the 800m time so much perhaps people would have believed you from the get go. Your uncle's 800m best is actually 1:47:8, a world away from 1:45:98.
That been said, your uncle was an awesome miler, and the schedule now appears to be legit.
RedClay, thank you so much for this reminder of the days when men were men, Brits ruled the mile, and Kenyans were nervous.
Was the final race the Edmonton Commonwealth bronze medal in 3:36.1? Dates don't quite match as that would have been in September if it started in March. But third to Moorcroft and Bayi was an amazing result.
This training is completely normal 80s UK stuff - although he and his coach were wiser than most in doing two sessions, daily strides and moderate mileage.
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bump
did others do three sessions a week? and higher mileage?
I am a John Robson fan! Thanks so much for sharing this. It's an enormous contribution. And good luck with your sub -4.
I'm wondering what kind of coaching JR had. He sounds pretty independent.
RedClay27 wrote:
OP here. Uncle Is John Robson, national record holder from Scotland. Happy now?
Robson never ran the times you said he did, taken "directly from his training logs."
there is still no proof that the OP is the nephew or that
the training schedule is authentic.
My father-in-law is Gert-Jan Liefers and here is his
schedule for 2008...
Welcome to the internet. There's no proof that Renato Canova really posts here either. Take it or leave it, it's not costing you anything either way.
What do you know. Is this your first experience with the internet?
OP thanks for the posts, but I certainly loved the detective work of the letsrun crowd here too. Entertaining thread.
I'd like to hear OldSub4s commentary on this training schedule.
To the OP: Nice work and thanks for taking the time to put this all together. Keep in mind that on this type of message board, there are always idiots who write things to see if they can get a reaction. They are insecure, petty, obvnoxious haters who have achieved very little in life while on their long collective journey to the middle.
Thanks again.
jeezy wrote:
could have been a 1:47 or 1:48, the OP said he varied with the times. And all of them add up very well.
Sorry to dig this up, but John Robson never ran a 1:47 or 1:48 indoor 800 either. Look up the UK Indoor All-Time lists. He's not on them at all for the 800, and the list goes down to like 1:50.
I don't know anything about this. Don't have a nephew interested in athletics, it's rubbish
John Robson wrote:
I don't know anything about this. Don't have a nephew interested in athletics, it's rubbish
Interesting...Would you be willing to post your basic training methods (Mileage, singles vs. doubles, etc.)?
tooquickfordavis wrote:
Is there even one human on the face of the earth with 1:45:98 800m and 13:30 5000m prs?
The op claims he is a post collegian, i.e. in his early to mid 20s. The schedule is supposedly his uncle's, probably 20 - 30 years older than him. This means the guy was racing in the 80s. No one from the 1980s running the 5000m in the 13:30s had 1:45:98 800m wheels.
FAKE!
Ever heard of Said Aoutia? 1:43.x , 12:58.x
Or Steve Ovett.
light_em_up wrote:
I'd like to hear OldSub4s commentary on this training schedule.
^yes please!
My only nephew is 8, so I doubt it. Also I never got close to 1:46
This schedule is very similar to what some of the top miler programs are doing. Andy Powell’s and Ryan Vanhoy come to mind. One speed day, one strength day, 16 mile long runs, mileage in the 70s, plenty of strides. Powell has had a few guys in the 1:46-8 range that ran mid 3:30’s. Vanhoy has had a handful of high 1:4x guys and sub-4 milers doing this type of training. It’s a great way to balance strength and speed while not overdoing it.