Lukas V. in 1,500 at Oxy this weekend

Diamond5 wrote:

At the meet wrote:

I'm at the meet. He ran 4:11 officially

So is Lukas V done as an elite athlete? Maybe this is karma catching up with him for selfishly abandoning the Oregon cross country team right before nationals.

If there's such a thing as karma, you have now placed yourself in a very unenviable position.

treetteer wrote:

The Waterboy wrote:

[quote] Bullcrap dog. He had another year of eligibility left of High School. He graduated a year early so that he could go up against college competition quicker since he was dominating the High School scene. If he wanted to be the largest fish, he would have stayed in High School for another year, won a third XC national title, and break more high school records.

??? Verzbicas was already 19 when he left high school. Are you implying he should have stayed in high school another year and been a 20-year old? He was already a year older than he should have been, but you're saying he should have stayed and been 2 years older than every other senior?

I don't even count his 8:29 as a high school mark since he was 19. That's college age, not high school age.

He was born in early 1993. He was 18 in 2011 when he left.

realitybites2016 wrote:

Look up the word "hubris."

^ Supa Bump. ^

did he run the 5000 too? What did he get?

He ran 14:53 in the 5000 after the 4:11 1500.

This is much better than what he ran back in November. Solinsky's results last august were way off of his old form as well, yet, he is coming closer to where he left off. I could see Verzbicas coming near his old form before the end of the year

Even if LV does get back to his old form, his old form (mid-level conference cross country runner) is nothing close to what the top tri guy in the world is running (28:30 for 10,000m). I was shocked that the British guy ran so fast and have a new understanding of the level of runner it takes to win Olympic gold in the tri. I thought that LV would get back to 80% of his running ability (an injury like that leaves you with less physical ability and more adept to injury) and it would be enough to run with the top tri guys, but even at 100% he's short on running ability.

realitybites2016 wrote:

Even if LV does get back to his old form, his old form (mid-level conference cross country runner) is nothing close to what the top tri guy in the world is running (28:30 for 10,000m). I was shocked that the British guy ran so fast and have a new understanding of the level of runner it takes to win Olympic gold in the tri. I thought that LV would get back to 80% of his running ability (an injury like that leaves you with less physical ability and more adept to injury) and it would be enough to run with the top tri guys, but even at 100% he's short on running ability.

Imagine that ... the guy has a steel rod in his back. LV is probably ashamed you are disappointed that he isn't cranking out sub-29 10K's 9 months after his crash.

realitybites2016 wrote:

... (an injury like that leaves you with less physical ability and more adept to injury)...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

For all of the butt hurt Oregon d!ck riders:

No one gives two Sh!ts about your podunk running school for retards.

Poor xc team didn't place :'(

Probably because they sucked, but blaming a frosh??!? lmao.

He beat eveyone in the second heat of the 5000m....

yeah, but he lost to HS freshman Estevan De La Rose from Arcadia...

The big O wrote:

For all of the butt hurt Oregon d!ck riders:

No one gives two Sh!ts about your podunk running school for retards.

Poor xc team didn't place :'(

Probably because they sucked, but blaming a frosh??!? lmao.

Are you in love with Lukas? He clearly shamelessly quit on his Oregon team most likely because he couldn't handle the pressure and wasn't blowing everyone away like he did in high school.

He should have at least finished out the cross-country season before quitting the team. He lacks the heart and determination of a champion, which is sad seeing as how he is immensely talented.

junior*

In the interviews wrote:

He admits it to be his fault in nearly every interview. 'Coach told us to take it easy, I was going faster than I should have been because of my competitive nature, and because I was going so fast I lost control on some sand and ate it'

I will not call you stupid, because you probably are not. However, you might be a tad bit clueless about the nature of top-level athletes, especially those that race on the bike. It is a different mentality than otherwise similar distance runners. Most crashes are, to some extent, the fault of the rider (not careful about the situations that they put themselves in, riding aggressively, etc. If you do not do that in cycling you are toast competitively, and the non-Ironman racing with the drafting etc. puts this more in to play than it otherwise would be. Add to this, that, unlike cyclists, who work on their skills all the time, for Tri athletes it is only a side light and they are not in with a bunch of hard-core cyclist that are showing them things all the time.

Wish he had stayed at Oregon but best of luck to the kid once a Duck always a Duck. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

treetteer wrote:

The Waterboy wrote:

[quote] Bullcrap dog. He had another year of eligibility left of High School. He graduated a year early so that he could go up against college competition quicker since he was dominating the High School scene. If he wanted to be the largest fish, he would have stayed in High School for another year, won a third XC national title, and break more high school records.

??? Verzbicas was already 19 when he left high school. Are you implying he should have stayed in high school another year and been a 20-year old? He was already a year older than he should have been, but you're saying he should have stayed and been 2 years older than every other senior?

I don't even count his 8:29 as a high school mark since he was 19. That's college age, not high school age.

Fail math class? Seriously...he graduated high school in 3 years to "catch up" with people his age.