Oldest guy on list is Ovett. Did his runs more than 30 years ago. Amazing to see he's still in top 20 list for 800/1500, considering all the great Africans that are around at any one time.
Oldest guy on list is Ovett. Did his runs more than 30 years ago. Amazing to see he's still in top 20 list for 800/1500, considering all the great Africans that are around at any one time.
that's more due to lack of interest generally shown by "pure" 1500 guys for the 800
most of these guys shoud be able to run 1'44 off their 3'30 ability, but they don't usually like finishing 4th or 5th in a race when they coud challenge for 2nd or 3rd in the 1500
maybe the current crop of quick 800 guys may change that as the 3'30 guys may decide to enter some of these quick 800s & get spurred on to a fast time - like baala who hadn't run a serious 800 in his life got a 5th in 1'43.1 when he did
Still 17 out of the top 27 are African or of African descent. So 10 are non African, which is a higher number than I expected.
Another observation is that the biggest gap in points is right at the top between 1 & 2. Coe is some 30 points clear of Kiprop. After that the next 3 (2-5) are all very close. The next gap of note is between 6 and 7, 14 points.
And only 7 are what I would call equal 800 & 1500 runners as opposed to specialists in one or the other.
With recent flurry of fast times in Monaco and other meets, I have updated the list of top 800/1500 runners based on IAAF points.
Main changes are Kiplagat moving up, and Wote and Souleiman joining the top 30.
Surname Nationality 800m PB IAAF points 1500m PB IAAF points Total IAAF points
Coe (UK) 1:41.73 1270.0 3:29.77 1248.0 2518.0
Kiprop (KEN) 1:43.15 1227.0 3:27.72 1277.0 2504.0
Baala (FRA) 1:43.15 1227.0 3:28.98 1259.0 2486.0
Cram (UK) 1:42.88 1235.0 3:29.67 1249.0 2484.0
Chirchir (KEN) 1:43.33 1222.0 3:29.29 1255.0 2477.0
Kaki (SUD) 1:42.23 1255.0 3:31.76 1220.0 2475.0
Laalou (MOR) 1:43.25 1224.0 3:29.53 1251.0 2475.0
Souleiman (DJI) 1:43.63 1212.0 3:29.58 1251.0 2463.0
Saad-Kemal (BRD/KEN) 1:42.79 1238.0 3:31.56 1223.0 2461.0
Morceli (ALG) 1:44.79 1178.0 3:27.37 1282.0 2460.0
Ngeny (KEN) 1:44.49 1187.0 3:28.12 1272.0 2459.0
Rotich (KEN) 1:43.65 1212.0 3:29.91 1246.0 2458.0
Aouita (MOR) 1:43.86 1206.0 3:29.47 1252.0 2458.0
Ramzi (BRN/MOR) 1:44.05 1200.0 3:29.14 1257.0 2457.0
Tanui (KEN) 1:43.37 1220.0 3:30.58 1236.0 2456.0
Kiplagat (KEN) 1:44.80 1177.0 3:27.64 1279.0 2456.0
Bile (SOM) 1:43.60 1213.0 3:30.55 1237.0 2450.0
Cruz (BRA) 1:41.77 1269.0 3:34.63 1180.0 2449.0
Makhloufi (ALG) 1:43.71 1210.0 3:30.40 1239.0 2449.0
WEBB (USA) 1:43.84 1206.0 3:30.54 1237.0 2443.0
Elliott (UK) 1:42.97 1232.0 3:32.69 1207.0 2439.0
Lagat (KEN) 1:46.00 1142.0 3:26.34 1297.0 2439.0
Ovett (UK) 1:44.09 1199.0 3:30.77 1234.0 2433.0
Choge (KEN) 1:44.86 1176.0 3:29.47 1252.0 2428.0
Mansoor-Ali (BRN) 1:44.02 1201.0 3:31.49 1224.0 2425.0
Niyongabo (BDI) 1:45.13 1168.0 3:29.18 1256.0 2424.0
Cacho (SPA) 1:45.37 1160.0 3:28.95 1260.0 2420.0
Silva (SPA) 1:44.91 1174.0 3:30.07 1244.0 2418.0
Wote (ETH) 1:44.99 1172.0 3:29.91 1246.0 2418.0
Wheating (USA) 1:44.56 1185.0 3:30.90 1232.0 2417.0
EL-Guerrouj (MOR) 1:47.18 1108.0 3:26.00 1302.0 2410.0
I have the data on a table, but it doesn't convert when I paste it on here, so apologies for it looking a bit messy.
If anyone can spot any omissions please let me know.
Cheers.
Surname Nationality 800m PB IAAF points 1500m PB IAAF points Total IAAF points
Coe (UK) 1:41.73 1270.0 3:29.77 1248.0 2518.0
Kiprop (KEN) 1:43.15 1227.0 3:27.72 1277.0 2504.0
Baala (FRA) 1:43.15 1227.0 3:28.98 1259.0 2486.0
Cram (UK) 1:42.88 1235.0 3:29.67 1249.0 2484.0
Chirchir (KEN) 1:43.33 1222.0 3:29.29 1255.0 2477.0
Kaki (SUD) 1:42.23 1255.0 3:31.76 1220.0 2475.0
Laalou* (MOR) 1:43.25 1224.0 3:29.53 1251.0 2475.0
Souleiman (DJI) 1:43.63 1212.0 3:29.58 1251.0 2463.0
Saad-Kemal (BRD/KEN) 1:42.79 1238.0 3:31.56 1223.0 2461.0
Morceli (ALG) 1:44.79 1178.0 3:27.37 1282.0 2460.0
Ngeny (KEN) 1:44.49 1187.0 3:28.12 1272.0 2459.0
Rotich (KEN) 1:43.65 1212.0 3:29.91 1246.0 2458.0
Aouita (MOR) 1:43.86 1206.0 3:29.47 1252.0 2458.0
Ramzi* (BRN/MOR) 1:44.05 1200.0 3:29.14 1257.0 2457.0
Tanui (KEN) 1:43.37 1220.0 3:30.58 1236.0 2456.0
Kiplagat (KEN) 1:44.80 1177.0 3:27.64 1279.0 2456.0
Bile (SOM) 1:43.60 1213.0 3:30.55 1237.0 2450.0
Cruz (BRA) 1:41.77 1269.0 3:34.63 1180.0 2449.0
Makhloufi (ALG) 1:43.71 1210.0 3:30.40 1239.0 2449.0
WEBB (USA) 1:43.84 1206.0 3:30.54 1237.0 2443.0
Elliott (UK) 1:42.97 1232.0 3:32.69 1207.0 2439.0
Lagat (KEN) 1:46.00 1142.0 3:26.34 1297.0 2439.0
Ovett (UK) 1:44.09 1199.0 3:30.77 1234.0 2433.0
Choge (KEN) 1:44.86 1176.0 3:29.47 1252.0 2428.0
Mansoor-Ali (BRN) 1:44.02 1201.0 3:31.49 1224.0 2425.0
Niyongabo (BDI) 1:45.13 1168.0 3:29.18 1256.0 2424.0
Cacho (SPA) 1:45.37 1160.0 3:28.95 1260.0 2420.0
Silva (SPA) 1:44.91 1174.0 3:30.07 1244.0 2418.0
Wote (ETH) 1:44.99 1172.0 3:29.91 1246.0 2418.0
Wheating (USA) 1:44.56 1185.0 3:30.90 1232.0 2417.0
EL-Guerrouj (MOR) 1:47.18 1108.0 3:26.00 1302.0 2410.0
Oops, forgot to highlight those banned for PEDs *