The 8k times looked slow, was the course difficult or was nobody pushing the pace?
The 8k times looked slow, was the course difficult or was nobody pushing the pace?
Dickinson jumps Allegheny for the 2 spot.
Sancho Villa wrote:
The 8k times looked slow, was the course difficult or was nobody pushing the pace?
The course is moderately hilly. First 2k and last 2k are flat, the rest is hilly.
Region Rankings wrote:
Dickinson jumps Allegheny for the 2 spot.
They'll probably be dropping after they got destroyed by CMU this weekend.
CMU looks sharp. Also Hopkins did well at Pre-Nats.
Wow dickinson got shat out the back in the regional rankings. CMU looking like they could pull quite the upset!
It should be interesting to see how things go in Oberlin, I believe CMU, Allegheny, Elizabethtown, NYU and Geneseo will all be there. That may help clarify all the jumping around going on in the Region Rankings
Oberlin Rumble wrote:
It should be interesting to see how things go in Oberlin, I believe CMU, Allegheny, Elizabethtown, NYU and Geneseo will all be there. That may help clarify all the jumping around going on in the Region Rankings
It certainly did clarify things, that everyone in the mideast is just dirty this year.
That course is for sure short. Looking at what both men and women ran at other flat courses before it doesn't make sense to drop 90 seconds in a race when you previous one was on a very flat and fast course as well... All those times are inflated. Just wait till conferences when everyone races on an even playing field.
So how many teams will advance out of the region now due to the spanking by Atlantic and Great Lakes at Oberlin?
Maybe 3 for the women and 4 for the men or am I missing something?
Def will take 5 on the men and 4 on the women's. Conferences will reveal a bit more.
It's one thing to compare teams between regions on October 13th and another thing to compare on Nov 10th. A lot will happen from now till then. Some teams are already starting to fizzle while others are just hitting their stride now.
Definitely a short course, word on the street is 80 meters short on the men's side, not sure about the women. Allegheny took care of CMU pretty easily so they should jump back up to 2 in the region. Genesseo seemed to have no problem winning with NYU not to far behind. I think if you look at what the teams have done this year so far Genesseo is about what people think they are, a top 5 team. NYU is better than people thought between 10 and 15, Allegheny 15-20, CMU and Wabash a little behind that but similar range. Just my thoughts from looking at results on a short course.
What street do you live on? It was the same course they run every year.
They had to change the course last minute because of construction on solar panels. Most certainly not the same course.
Hard to say exactly, but just from looking at the times I'd say that course looks about 50 seconds short.
Regardless of the shortness of the course, the race does show that William Jones is in nasty shape. Could be a top 5 guy.
The course is not short. Three couches measured the course and got 8k. So if you think its short, you are wrong. Guys are getting faster and training better. and if you did not realize it, its a pancake flat course
running hard wrote:
The course is not short. Three couches measured the course and got 8k. So if you think its short, you are wrong. Guys are getting faster and training better. and if you did not realize it, its a pancake flat course
How do you measure a course with a couch?
Goats wrote:
running hard wrote:The course is not short. Three couches measured the course and got 8k. So if you think its short, you are wrong. Guys are getting faster and training better. and if you did not realize it, its a pancake flat course
How do you measure a course with a couch?
I actually saw these three couches being used to measure the course. They were laid end to end and through a series of what looked like couch leap frog, they measured the course. Unfortunately they were American not Metric couches so that could be where the distance discrepancy is coming up.
I heard Bill Jones is a real couch potato
So the new rankings are out. The same 6 teams have been at the top all season and that continues. Swarthmore, DeSales, Widener and York have been steady lately in the last 4. York seems to have a hold on the 10 spot while the others jockey. Swarthmore took a beating in the poll, (from 7 to 9) by getting beat by Widener. But Swarthmore's top guy didn't run, so I am not sure that makes sense. DeSales wins the home invitational, also without their top guy, against decidedly so-so competition and moves up also. York runs out of region and beats some ranked teams from (a weak) south region and goes nowhere. At Dickinson York beat Widener and Widener moved up, York went nowhere. I think Swarthmore is still 7, I'd give DeSales 8, York 9 and Widener 10. I am not gettin' their recent climb.