ALLYSON FELIX JUST SPLIT 47.9

I am not a moran.

Talk about an own goal.

wowowowow wrote:

I do not like bolt. I am american.. but not proud of our womens track team. You are a self centered person just like the the three athletes i mentioned.

I am not a moran. If you knew who i was you should shit!

Allyson Felix represented our country well. She's awesome. No one gives a rats ass who you are.

She could definitely have won the 4. Shes fast. And pretty hot.

Trotter 49.57

Felix 48.85 (1:38.42)

McCorory 49.39 (2:27.81)

Richards 49.06 (3:16.87)

wowowowow wrote:

I am not a moran. If you knew who i was you should shit!

Well, he's definitely not Ed Moran.

This is not the first time she's had the fastest split on the US 4x4 at an OG or WC. I think she pretty routinely does. Amazing at any distance, and a great relay runner.

wowowowow wrote:

I do not like bolt. I am american.. but not proud of our womens track team. You are a self centered person just like the the three athletes i mentioned.

I am not a moran. If you knew who i was you should shit!

You are a moron though. If you are anybody of importance, that just makes you even more pathetic that you can't even put a sentence together. This isn't even being nitpicky. You are just plain stupid.

If we knew who you were we should shit.....

Obviously you're some former sprinter with an IQ of 87

F'tard

The African King wrote:

Double_Dog wrote:

The NBC Olympics page indicates she split 47.8. I didn't see the race. Is that an accurate split?

http://www.nbcolympics.com/track-and-field/event/women-4x400m-relay/phase=atw404100/index.html

She should run the open 400m at the next Olympics and World Championship. Why waste her time on the open 100m?

Whoever did the splits made an error that most rookie coaches make. The split from the first to second runner should be taken at the 1 bend stagger line, not the 400m start line. After taking the splits myself (properly), you should take off about .8 from Trotter's time and add .8 to Felix's split.

Whoever taught you how to take splits for 3 turn stagger misinformed you. You certainly do not add or subtract any times from splits you take. You split the second runner in the middle of the handoff zone of the second leg. Unless they have cameras at each of the handoff zones for the second leg, you will not get auto times for the second leg, except for the first lane.

Simple as that....

Cowboy bob wrote:

The African King wrote:

Whoever did the splits made an error that most rookie coaches make. The split from the first to second runner should be taken at the 1 bend stagger line, not the 400m start line. After taking the splits myself (properly), you should take off about .8 from Trotter's time and add .8 to Felix's split.

Whoever taught you how to take splits for 3 turn stagger misinformed you. You certainly do not add or subtract any times from splits you take. You split the second runner in the middle of the handoff zone of the second leg. Unless they have cameras at each of the handoff zones for the second leg, you will not get auto times for the second leg, except for the first lane.

Simple as that....

Read my post carefully you illiterate idiot.

I added .8 because someone took the split at the 400start rather than the one bend stagger. You dont take it halfway. Use some common sense. There are 3 curves and there are 3 staggers. The 4 x 400 usees the 3rd stagger becausse there are 3 curves in the 4 x 400. The first runner runs 2 curves. The second runner runs 1 curve. Therefore Felix's 400 starts at the 1 bend stagger and ends at te finish line as she has one curve to run like the 800m runners. I've noticed many coaches over the years taking the split at the wrong line, or worse yet, takes it when the athlete gets the baton.

African King. Please be careful as to who you call an illiterate idiot. I did read your post and you said "I added .8 because someone...." You don't add or subtract times from splits and consider them to be accurate. Either they are taken at the correct location or they are not. I also don't need you to try and explain to me about turns.

Here is the simple bottom line. Each runner gets to run 400 meters (unless someone takes the baton early in the zone), which comes to the middle of the handoff zone. For all but lane one the first handoff zone fof the first leg, the middle of the handoff zone (where the baton needs to be when a split is taken) is beyond the finish line. So, if a team is out in lane 8, the zone is going to be partially into the turn, and the time for the first runner is going to be recorded when his or her baton reaches the "middle of the exchange zone" (as you said the start of the 800), which is also when the time for the second runner begins. The rest of the legs will have their times recorded when the baton reaches the finish line, as that will be the middle of the zone for legs 2 and 3 and the finish for leg 4. And as I said, unless they have 8 separate cameras set up at the exchange zones the times for the first and second runner will be hand times and not auto times. Auto times can be recorded for the final two runners, but only the 4th leg will have a true auto time for his or her leg.

So your explanation is correct, but not very clear, as you talk about curves and bends. Talk about "relay zone" the common term used in relay timing and then we are on the same page...as I am saying the same thing I said in my initial post.

So take it back, smarty pants....

Any vid on youtube? I mean real vid? Not just photos? Was this race actually run? Maybe they started two meters in front of the lines? I hope somebody watched. And if some of you are in London, please measure the track. Dont forget that. Because it could be short!!!!!! Really, no kidding!'*

per my watch watching on TV

50.41, 47.92, 49.50, 49.04 = 3:16.87

you time the stick as it passes the line not the hand-off so not having a good view of the line on the second and third pass I could be off a bit.

Regardless, Felix rocked her leg.

Look again. 48.3 from hand off to hand off.

She ran a terrible backstretch and cost herself about 2m, she cost herself another 1m on the curve.

Remember she also had a running start.

I think she's capable of 48.5 in an open 400. Her speed training is paying dividends all the way up to 400.

Yes, it is very hard to see where the one bend stagger line (or the 800m starts as African King says) is on the video.

Double_Dog wrote:

The NBC Olympics page indicates she split 47.8. I didn't see the race. Is that an accurate split?

http://www.nbcolympics.com/track-and-field/event/women-4x400m-relay/phase=atw404100/index.html

She should run the open 400m at the next Olympics and World Championship. Why waste her time on the open 100m?

Because she has a gold in the 200 this time after the 100. That was the whole issue with the 100/200 double. Last year Allyson got silver in the 400 and bronze in the 200, which wasn't acceptable.

If you don't get that, you don't know enough to have any business commenting.

coacht27 wrote:

per my watch watching on TV

50.41, 47.92, 49.50, 49.04 = 3:16.87

you time the stick as it passes the line not the hand-off so not having a good view of the line on the second and third pass I could be off a bit.

Regardless, Felix rocked her leg.

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coach27, you got your lines mixed up. You hit the split at the 400m start line and not the 800m start line, which is the middle of the exchange zone for the 2nd leg of the 4x4.

My watch read; 50.10, 48.18, 49.35 and 48.93 = 3:16.56 (hand time) which is 3:16.6

Like you said, "Regardless, Felix rocked her leg" She and all 4 for them rocked!

Her main goal for this Olympics was the individual gold which oddly she does not have. She knew she would not get that in the 100m; however, running the 100m prepared her for the 200m. She could possibly have done the 200m/400m double successfully; however, she already tried that last year and did not want to take that risk.

That's f****ng awesome.

Trotter did 49.7 and thats from the blocks.

Trotter has been very impressive this Olympics.

This is what I had:

49.7

48.3

49.4

48.9

Add a few hundreds to each. Allyson was the most impressive.

I'll predict a sub 49 from her soon this year or next.

She could have had 4 Golds if she can get strong enough to add the 400.