Forget running and start training for Ninja Warrior.
Forget running and start training for Ninja Warrior.
Flagpole wrote:
No one "walks on" to a D3 team.
Everyone does actually...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk-on_(sports)
Pizzaguy wrote:
Flagpole wrote:No one "walks on" to a D3 team.
Everyone does actually...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk-on_(sports)
Exactly. DIII doesn't have athletic scholarships. Hopefully OP will clear it up so we can have a better picture of the situation.
Flagpole wrote:
Pizzaguy wrote:Don't listen to flagpole, 16:50 equates to 34:40 in the 10k which would have placed you 7th in my D3 school's conference meet last this year scoring the team 2 points. My school won their conference 109 to 105.5, your contribution would have made it 110.
I would find an running club and train with them. If you have friends on the track team I am sure you can still go on regular runs with them behind the coach's back.
I'd train real hard and then enter as an open athlete in a meet they are going to and just beat one of his guy. I'd then follow up with a hello to the coach.
No one "walks on" to a D3 team.
Sounds like the guy never really had even a block of decent training.
Running 16:50 after 6 or 7 years of solid training is much different than running it off of a few months or a year of training.
Flagpole wrote:
No one "walks on" to a D3 team.
Everyone on a D3 team is a walk on.
I'm with the Pole on this one.
I am also a bit hesitant to believe kids who say they have been plagued with injuries.
a constant string of injuries is a sign of weakness, either mental weakness or physical weakness.
Stop It Now wrote:
...a constant string of injuries is a sign of weakness, either mental weakness or physical weakness.
Or perhaps poor coaching and inappropriate workouts...
wrong-o wrote:
Flagpole wrote:No one "walks on" to a D3 team.
Everyone on a D3 team is a walk on.
Man, if the dude in question meant that he was wanting to "walk on" to a D3 school, then more power to him; he should continue to try. I certainly wouldn't use the term "walk on" for a non-scholarship giving school, but whatever, if that's the accepted definition, I will abide by it.
DIII schools definitely DO recruit though...letters to homes and coaches, phone calls, etc.
PwacTwac wrote:
Or perhaps poor coaching and inappropriate workouts...
Well, if everyone s getting injured, yes... As a D1 scholarship athlete, it got annoying seeing walk-ons join the team and spend all their time in the training room, never working out. They always had some kind of injury: tendinitis, shin splints, etc.
I am not saying all injuries are BS, but if someone cannot handle college training, they should probably do something else. The "weakness" is that their body cannot handle the training. This may not be the case with the OP, but it seems to be a common thing on college teams.
FWIW, you see it after college too. I ran for a club after college for about 5 years and there were always 2 or 3 guys who just hung around and never ran or raced. I was buddies with the owner of a store that sponsored the club and it used to piss him off to no end b/c he was buying uniforms and shirts for these guys and they would never run in them.
If everyone on a team is getting injured, you're right, it is probably a coaching thing.
Not just anyone can be a ninja warrior.
you sound like a faggot.
Unless these people have literally never run a race, then they're normal runners. It's a rare find to have athletes who never get injured, even fast ones. I know I guy who spent a ton of time healing injuries in the first half of college. He has now run 14:08.
trolol wrote:
you sound like a faggot.
Unless these people have literally never run a race, then they're normal runners. It's a rare find to have athletes who never get injured, even fast ones. I know I guy who spent a ton of time healing injuries in the first half of college. He has now run 14:08.
You sound like a bigot.
You must be one of these weak, perpetually injured guys.
trolol wrote:
you sound like a faggot.
Unless these people have literally never run a race, then they're normal runners. It's a rare find to have athletes who never get injured, even fast ones. I know I guy who spent a ton of time healing injuries in the first half of college. He has now run 14:08.
I'm a normal runner and I am not injured all the time. I have had injuries in the past, but I know what he is saying. There are always those guys who just want to be a part of the scene, but never want to really run.
Also, if you do actually want to run but can never train without injury, maybe you should find something better to do with your time. No shame in not being able to consistently train hard on the roads without injury. Some bodies just cannot take it. Maybe pick up the bike or hit the pool.
If you tried running in high school and have been injured most of the time, then it's time to realize there are lots of other great sports out there. Some people are just not made to be distance runners. That's ok. Try something new. Your school's coach is indirectly doing you a favor if he's said there will be no walk-ons this fall.
If you have lots of friends on the team already and just want to be part of the group, then see if the team can use a student manager.
Without knowing much about you, my gut says take this opportunity to try some new things. College is an excellent time to explore other activities, people, etc. Take advantange of it.
D3 recruits athletes. You have recruited athletes (e.g. guys the coach has talked to and helped get in with admissions) and unrecruited athletes. I was unrecruited. (Coach talked to me and was unimpressed with my times, but I still got in off the waitlist). I walked on. In other words, I showed up to xc practice unasked after a light summer of running, mostly working, and he helped me keep up on the first day and I was okay after that. If you are at 16:50s running by yourself with a long injury history, you may very well still drop a ton of time and running isn't all about whether you're sub 14.
Stop It Now wrote:
PwacTwac wrote:Or perhaps poor coaching and inappropriate workouts...
Well, if everyone s getting injured, yes... As a D1 scholarship athlete, it got annoying seeing walk-ons join the team and spend all their time in the training room, never working out. They always had some kind of injury: tendinitis, shin splints, etc.
I am not saying all injuries are BS, but if someone cannot handle college training, they should probably do something else. The "weakness" is that their body cannot handle the training. This may not be the case with the OP, but it seems to be a common thing on college teams.
FWIW, you see it after college too. I ran for a club after college for about 5 years and there were always 2 or 3 guys who just hung around and never ran or raced. I was buddies with the owner of a store that sponsored the club and it used to piss him off to no end b/c he was buying uniforms and shirts for these guys and they would never run in them.
If everyone on a team is getting injured, you're right, it is probably a coaching thing.
I walked on to a D1 wrestling program. It took me a couple of years to do it but I wound up becoming a starter with a couple of scholarship guys behind me. What really annoyed me was seeing those guys work just hard enough to keep their rides but no harder.
nowwhatshouldido wrote:
So basically i'm about to enter my junior year of college. I had a lot of injuries and health issues that kept my running limited after college plus my times were pretty insignificant as well (5:00 mile, yes, i'm a male). Anyway, I gave it one last shot this past Spring/this summer to try to walk on my college team in the fall as a last hurrah.
Anyway, the coach decided not to take any walk ons and there is no club team at my school, thus I am not sure what to do now. I have been in the 75-80 mpw range and I have decent enough fitness (for me), probably in the high 16s range but not sure what to do with it.
I am at a serious lack of motivation now and while I do love running, it's just daunting facing that realistically I will have to continue training by myself for the next several years as I have been told that I cannot train with the team at all even if I am not on the roster.
Obviously now that I am a junior, there really isn't much of a chance of me walking on next year, especially as the team is pretty young, so I just don't know what to do from here. My school is xc only so there isn't really a track team to train for in the winter/spring.
Basically, just looking for some guidance/advice on where I should go next and was curious if anyone has been in a situation like this. Again, I really don't want to stop running but I just don't know where I should go now. At least for now, to me, it seems difficult to continue training at a high level for my last few years of college when there isn't really a team or specific goal in mind to go for.
Get your degree as quickly as possible, and get a good job upon graduation. Run for fun on your own if you'd like. I started 'partying' it up senior year and then the two years after I graduated. I enjoyed that 'me' time. There's more to life than running competitively.
A walk on wrote:
I walked on to a D1 wrestling program. It took me a couple of years to do it but I wound up becoming a starter with a couple of scholarship guys behind me. What really annoyed me was seeing those guys work just hard enough to keep their rides but no harder.
That would piss me off too.Personally, i just do not understand the mentality. Why even do it if you aren't going to work your ass off?
first, grow some 'nads. If this is how you deal with a door slamming in your face, get ready for a long, disappointing life. So the coach said 'no'. So? Use that as mojo to get in awesome shape & kick as# running unattached in the same meets as your team. If you finish before the #7 dude on your team, you've now put yourself in a much better position..
And don't whine about having to train by yourself. Do you know how many HS kids have to train without a team for various reasons? If some 14 yr old girl can do it, surely you can, you ninny.
Or, take up ultra-running. Wish I'd done that when I was your age & I had all that free time..
How fast are the other runners? If you are not too much behind them, work extra hard, try to get your times down a bit and talk to the coach again and express your enthusiasm. Maybe he would at least let you attend some of the workouts.
Another idea is to try another sport for a while. Does your college have a crew team? Then you could refocus on running after college. Depending where you live, there may be some local running clubs you could join after college.
Good luck! Even if you don't run on your college team, you still have many, many years of potential races ahead of you.