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11 years ago 05/18/2012 9:16pm EDT

re: Rbyrne

This whole debate is ridiculous. Like most debates, both sides has its idiots.

As a gun owner, I don't get where the fear of guns comes from. If you've ever handled a gun (from reading this, I'm guessing 99% of you have not), a fear of GUNS makes no sense. It's like being afraid of any other inanimate object that, in and of itself, has no power to harm you.

As cliche as it sounds, the old adage that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is 100% true.

Be scared of the man or woman who has the capability of losing their temper and killing another person in a fit of rage. Be scared of the drunk that suddenly loses his ability to see right and wrong. Be scared of the moron kid who wants to impress his friends. Be scared of the gangster wannabe who wants to be accepted by his clique. Be scared of the drug addict or alcoholic who will steal and rob to get their fix.

Find a way to fix these problems, rather than pointing fingers at a lifeless object.

11 years ago 05/18/2012 9:20pm EDT

re: neanderthal dream

neanderthal dream wrote:
This whole debate is ridiculous. Like most debates, both sides has its idiots.
As a gun owner, I don't get where the fear of guns comes from. If you've ever handled a gun (from reading this, I'm guessing 99% of you have not), a fear of GUNS makes no sense. It's like being afraid of any other inanimate object that, in and of itself, has no power to harm you.
As cliche as it sounds, the old adage that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is 100% true.
Be scared of the man or woman who has the capability of losing their temper and killing another person in a fit of rage. Be scared of the drunk that suddenly loses his ability to see right and wrong. Be scared of the moron kid who wants to impress his friends. Be scared of the gangster wannabe who wants to be accepted by his clique. Be scared of the drug addict or alcoholic who will steal and rob to get their fix.
Find a way to fix these problems, rather than pointing fingers at a lifeless object.

Nobody is saying that they are afraid of guns. Posters are saying that they fear people with guns. So, what's your point?

11 years ago 05/18/2012 10:16pm EDT

re: troof be told

What happens when nobody has guns except for one crazy gunman? Oh, that already happened in Norway, where scores of innocents were killed by a lone terrorist. Norway has, almost without exaggerating, pretty much no guns anywhere.

You can feel safe without guns but I'm going to be packing. Criminals are going to get guns regardless of the law. Best for law-abiding citizens to be prepared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

11 years ago 05/19/2012 12:45pm EDT

re: no one is saying otherwise

Uh.... Did you read the thread?

no one is saying otherwise wrote:
neanderthal dream wrote:
This whole debate is ridiculous. Like most debates, both sides has its idiots.
As a gun owner, I don't get where the fear of guns comes from. If you've ever handled a gun (from reading this, I'm guessing 99% of you have not), a fear of GUNS makes no sense. It's like being afraid of any other inanimate object that, in and of itself, has no power to harm you.
As cliche as it sounds, the old adage that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is 100% true.
Be scared of the man or woman who has the capability of losing their temper and killing another person in a fit of rage. Be scared of the drunk that suddenly loses his ability to see right and wrong. Be scared of the moron kid who wants to impress his friends. Be scared of the gangster wannabe who wants to be accepted by his clique. Be scared of the drug addict or alcoholic who will steal and rob to get their fix.
Find a way to fix these problems, rather than pointing fingers at a lifeless object.
Nobody is saying that they are afraid of guns. Posters are saying that they fear people with guns. So, what's your point?

11 years ago 05/19/2012 1:03pm EDT

re: neanderthal dream

Yes, I read the thread.

When people talk about imposing gun laws they are talking about restricting peoples' access to guns. They aren't afraid of guns. They are afraid of people with guns.

If people were afraid of guns as objects, they would be trying to ban production of guns, not ownership or possession of guns.

11 years ago 05/19/2012 3:22pm EDT

re: disambiguity

Guns don't kill people, people who should be sent back to Liberia kill people.

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