Being told by the football coach that I need to do the football offseason weight program or else I cannot use the weight

Body Weight Works wrote:

Azaleas wrote:

body weight exercises are borderline useless.

Tell me that a person that can do 20 good dips/pullups/pushups isn't strong. Do you really need to cycle a track team through the "WAIT" room taking turns bench pressing to get stronger?

I agree with above, I would keep the team on the track and do lunges, plyos, core work, pushups, pull-ups, in some sort of circuit method, maybe even having timed circuits or using escalating density training methods to systematically increase workload over time and build strength. Check out coach Staley's training methods.

highschooltrackcoach wrote:

I'm a high school boys track coach.

I don't want to do the program because I don't think it is specific enough to cover an entire track team.

Thoughts?

Don't use the weight room.

It has to be brought to the top. If there is a football coach dictating what happens in the weight room, then telling kids they shouldn't do track because track doesn't use the weight room, I'm in a lose/lose situation. I can't just ignore it and let the football coach decide which sports the kids should be doing. That's not his place.

Thanks to you people for the advice, I feel it needs to be brought out into the light, and I should be allowed to coach track using my own methods. Too many cooks in the kitchen, especially when those cooks aren't coordinating with each other, is never a good thing. And these are kids we're dealing with...they deserve proper training, not some half-ass or lop-sided approach to their sports.

Gotta say you know more that these knucklehead football coaches and your AD.

Football traning in most high schools is out of date and BFS is heavy lifting that just causes injury. I saw this at the school I work at, tons of knee and shoulder issues. I also can tell you all this heavy lifting just makes kids fat with some muscle. Now they get the workouts from "Muscle Fitness Magazine" too bad this mag is a joke with juiced up muscle heads.

I have been coaching CC and Track for 25 years and competed for 30 years. Not a level I due to not wanting to pay the fee and the time.

My team won the State CC meet this past year.We do tons of body weight training along with some circuits of running and body weight training during the off season.

I stay out of the weight room due to too many kids, (75) safety factors and if a kid is weak, body weight stuff is better due to recruiting more muscle and getting strength endurance faster and not stressing the joints. Personally I feel bw stuff is better than weights, though you can do stuff in the weightroom simular to bw stuff but it takes a lot of time.

I personally have put on 15 pounds of muscle doing bw squats, push ups, sit ups, pull/chin ups. So anyone who says it does not work has not done it themselves. I have a kid who was a gymanst running for me and he is lean and his strength is off the charts. I also do some of Jay Johnsons stuff which really helps kids now who are so weak and prone to injury.

At the high school I work at we finally have a football coach, coaching our sprinters and he has gotten more football kids out by showing the head fb coach why our kids are getting beat by other teams who run track.

AL I can say in your case is modify the BFS to your own stuff just change it but call it BFS.

Monty

highschooltrackcoach wrote:

The BFS program has been deemed by the AD as the "official school program".

Is there a binding contract that says so? No. You have been deemed the official school track coach. So proceed as a track coach would. The football coach's opinion is dog do. The AD wanna time interval workouts with you too?