I cant break 2mins for 800!!

You probably haven't gotten into a good race yet

Strength work in the gym on easy days may be just what you need to push you over the edge.

How are your Threshold runs going?

These workouts you listed don't really paint a picture of your training...

Yeah I'm currentley doing a good bit of Strength work this year, I've never felt so strong

depending wrote:

Strength work in the gym on easy days may be just what you need to push you over the edge.

Atm I'm doing core and some plyometrics, I think its paid off and I feel more capable of completing tough workouts now

Duhduh wrote:

How are your Threshold runs going?

These workouts you listed don't really paint a picture of your training...

Emm there going good, Im running approx. 35-40mpw with at the most one tempo per week, hills once a week and also a handful of 200s once a week along with the 4s. So 3/4 runs with 3 workouts

Sounds to me like you would do best moving up in distance. You would probably be best at 5k - marathon.

You're still pretty young; I'd just give it some time if I were you.

I ran something like seven 2:00 800s in a row when I was about your age and then 'suddenly' popped off a 1:57.

Keep up the work and it'll come! :)

My 5k PR from last year is 16:10 But i cant see moving up to 5k possible bc of the african domination, 15 would be my strongest event in becoming a success at world stage

RP wrote:

Sounds to me like you would do best moving up in distance. You would probably be best at 5k - marathon.

Toronto wrote:

You're still pretty young; I'd just give it some time if I were you.

I ran something like seven 2:00 800s in a row when I was about your age and then 'suddenly' popped off a 1:57.

Keep up the work and it'll come! :)

Thanks! i will do.

By the sounds of that, would you not be extremely gutted after running seven in a row?! i was gutted after 2 or 3 times lol

you need to be aggressive. you gotta be even more competitive.

Get in a fast race and go out in 56.5--57 flat and HANG ON!

you're an english guy.. typically you guys training make you a better 1500m runner than 800m when training for both ( i know i've had teammates from UK ).

the last person said it right, get out fast and hold on. you can't be scared to run fast, just go for it even if u have to front run the entire race. its not a 1500, once u get that out of your head then you'll easily break 2.

try doing a session like 8x200 w/ 200 jog(60sec) and run 28/29 seconds for each. this type of workout will help.

I'm no expert, but my experience was somewhat the same as yours.

I had 400m of 53.8

1,500 of 4:05.5

And couldn't break 2 in the 800. (2:00.4)

The next year

400 - 50.7

800 - 1:55.2

1,500 - 3:58.0

So maybe it's your speed? All I know is that once I got faster in the 400 my 800 time dropped.

But I could be totally wrong.

big sean wrote:

you're an english guy.. typically you guys training make you a better 1500m runner than 800m when training for both ( i know i've had teammates from UK ).

the last person said it right, get out fast and hold on. you can't be scared to run fast, just go for it even if u have to front run the entire race. its not a 1500, once u get that out of your head then you'll easily break 2.

try doing a session like 8x200 w/ 200 jog(60sec) and run 28/29 seconds for each. this type of workout will help.

Thanks !! I think im not going out fast in some cases bc i think I'll blow up or something..

My gf has a whooty! wrote:

I'm no expert, but my experience was somewhat the same as yours.

I had 400m of 53.8

1,500 of 4:05.5

And couldn't break 2 in the 800. (2:00.4)

The next year

400 - 50.7

800 - 1:55.2

1,500 - 3:58.0

So maybe it's your speed? All I know is that once I got faster in the 400 my 800 time dropped.

But I could be totally wrong.

No thats probably what it is. the only thing is im in a situation were i dont know what event i want to make my speciality atm

On Frank Horwill's website (Serpentine Running Club, or something like that), he shows that it takes ~6 800m races for a runner to max out their training. That number was for pros, but I think that I found the same when I was in HS.

Careful, you could have blown your troll cover here...

[quote]Why me? wrote:

, 15 would be my strongest event in becoming a success at world stage[quote]RP wrote:

I had the same problem. I measured off 800 Meters down a slight downhill. Started rocking 1:52-1:55s that way... Pyscologically I got over the mental barrier, and also improved my turnover.