I have three sons, early teens. One my oldest is a runner. The other two love baseball, football etc. We travel alot for years getting autographs etc. I'm old college heavyweight wrestler and fighter. Out of all the athletes we have met , and most were big bad son of a guns...I only felt bad for my son when he was talking to two specific athletes. One was Shorter. I read on these boards about this runner and that runner beating up some guy who gave them crap or something. Shorter seemed like a tough guy, massive arms, powerful shoulders, large wrists and massive fists. I'll bet he can really hit. To bad we can't get all these runners fighting...they all apparently are real tough guys.