I know its not that fast however 300 is very generous on my part (prob closer to 350 maybe more) and he wasn't/ isnt muscular at all he was just massive.
I know its not that fast however 300 is very generous on my part (prob closer to 350 maybe more) and he wasn't/ isnt muscular at all he was just massive.
Junkyard Relays in Clinton? Our coach made the distance guys run a 4x100 for giggles, and the fat guys time was faster than ours.
question of words wrote:
bwrunner wrote:A thrower on my track team in 8th grade told me he could run 100 meters in 15 secs....he was 300+ pounds.
those big guys have a lot of muscle and so some actually will do well at 50m-100m...But no farther! haha
I recall we had a big man relay in high school right before the 4x400 event. All of the teams would put a relay together composed of only shot and discuss people. Those big guys can move!
15 seconds isn't even that fast. If someone can run a mile faster than that, then it's not that fast.
I honestly don't find any part of his story unbelievable. First of all, those times are ridiculously slow. Second of all, you just come off as a jackass. If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
teamdoc wrote:
My wife's cousin is a newly-trained Navy SEAL.
He surprised us all by showing up at the family holiday party and was receiving adulation all around. In reponse to questions about his physical condition he started detailing at-length his weight-lifting (he's about 5'8, 195) and running abilities.
Among his claims were 3-miles in 17 minutes and running 6 minute miles wearing boots, a uniform, and fully-loaded with gear and weapons. No one doubted him for an instant. I had no desire to embarrass him and said nothing except to invite him out for my early morning 9 miler the next day to share company. "How fast do you want to run?" he asked. I said that I normally did the run averaging 6:45 miles but that I'd be happy to run faster or slower depending upon his preference. He said (loudly), "Lets do 11 miles in an hour." I said, "Ok!" We agreed to meet at my house at 6:30AM.
Needless to say I ran alone.
Years ago John Carlos wrote an auto-bio called Why? It is probably self-published. I have a copy of it somewhere. It was coauthored by some guy who had no idea what he was doing. This should not be confused with the current as told to book by Carlos and Dave Zirin. The older book is filled with typos, misspelled names and such. I think they even spelled Avery Brundage and Ollan Cassell incorrectly. In the book he makes the implausible claim that he would have won the 200 meter final in 1968 but he intentionally slowed up so that Tommie Smith could pass him because if Tommie Smith had finished second he would not have participated in the hand salute on the stand. Ohh, and by accident he slowed down too much and that other guy slipped by him too so he finished third. But really, Carlos would have won if he had just wanted too. This seems to me to be an outrageous claim. If we ever wonder why there is continued tension between Smith and Carlos ridiculous statements like these might be the reason why.
GD
I'm 6'4" which, let's face it, is just too tall to be fast. Non-runners generally assume one reason I was a good runner is because I have long legs. Once someone said "yeah I could have been on the cross country team, but most of the guys on the team looked like you." He was surprised when I told him most of the best marathoners in the world are no taller than 5'7".
Genetic Dysfunction wrote:
The older book is filled with typos, misspelled names and such. I think they even spelled Avery Brundage and Ollan Cassell incorrectly...
... But really, Carlos would have won if he had just wanted too.
GD
jlemoo wrote:
I'm 6'4" which, let's face it, is just too tall to be fast.
Good point.
(Usain Bolt - 6'5")
random a hole wrote:
ysrdf wrote:People lying about this might seem innocent enough but it's actually a felony so it might be worth checking it out.
How would it be worth checking out? Felony to lie to your family about being a Navy seal? I'd like to see a little back up on that claim.
We know he's a Navy SEAL. It's the running he's lying about. Now I prefer my Navy SEALs to be non-liars (and to show up when they say they will), but that's a whole different story...
Military guys are not runners. They are in pretty good shape, especially special forces guys. 17 minutes for 3 miles for a 5'8" 195 guy is pretty good, at least in my book. If he were 5'8" and 130, it would be much more believable. He's REALLY heavy.Also, for even runners, 3 miles in 17 minutes is not "ridiculously slow". There are a TON of 18 year old guys that can't beat 21 minutes for a 5k. And those are people on the team!
Med School Runner wrote:
I honestly don't find any part of his story unbelievable. First of all, those times are ridiculously slow. Second of all, you just come off as a jackass. If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
teamdoc wrote:My wife's cousin is a newly-trained Navy SEAL.
He surprised us all by showing up at the family holiday party and was receiving adulation all around. In reponse to questions about his physical condition he started detailing at-length his weight-lifting (he's about 5'8, 195) and running abilities.
Among his claims were 3-miles in 17 minutes and running 6 minute miles wearing boots, a uniform, and fully-loaded with gear and weapons. No one doubted him for an instant. I had no desire to embarrass him and said nothing except to invite him out for my early morning 9 miler the next day to share company. "How fast do you want to run?" he asked. I said that I normally did the run averaging 6:45 miles but that I'd be happy to run faster or slower depending upon his preference. He said (loudly), "Lets do 11 miles in an hour." I said, "Ok!" We agreed to meet at my house at 6:30AM.
Needless to say I ran alone.
Soccer player at my high school, Tim Griffith, was pretty fast. Everyone told him he should run instead of play soccer. He didn't think he'd be any good.
He came out for cross country and track his senior year.
It definitely didn't turn out like the rest of these stories. I'd moved to Michigan by then, but my understanding is he only lost to one person the entire year, which was Alan Scharsu, who beat him in lots of races.
One example was the mile at state. Not bad for a first year runner...
1978 Ohio State AAA Meet, May 26,27
One Mile Run
1. Alan Scharsu, Austintown Fitch, 4:13.1
2. Timothy Griffith, Stow, 4:16.2
3. Robert Topping, The Plains Athens, 4:20.1
4. William O'Reilly, Lakewood, 4:20.6
5. Jim Luth, Chaney, 4:21.0
6. John Zishka, Lanceaster, 4:22.1
I'm pretty sure Griffith later ran sub-4 shortly after graduating from Kent State, but don't know for sure.
Med School Runner wrote:
I honestly don't find any part of his story unbelievable. First of all, those times are ridiculously slow. Second of all, you just come off as a jackass. If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
teamdoc wrote:My wife's cousin is a newly-trained Navy SEAL.
He surprised us all by showing up at the family holiday party and was receiving adulation all around. In reponse to questions about his physical condition he started detailing at-length his weight-lifting (he's about 5'8, 195) and running abilities.
Among his claims were 3-miles in 17 minutes and running 6 minute miles wearing boots, a uniform, and fully-loaded with gear and weapons. No one doubted him for an instant. I had no desire to embarrass him and said nothing except to invite him out for my early morning 9 miler the next day to share company. "How fast do you want to run?" he asked. I said that I normally did the run averaging 6:45 miles but that I'd be happy to run faster or slower depending upon his preference. He said (loudly), "Lets do 11 miles in an hour." I said, "Ok!" We agreed to meet at my house at 6:30AM.
Needless to say I ran alone.
Hey, Roger Bannister was also a med school runner! Unlike you, he had a clue.
What is the point in comparing 3 mile times and 5k times? They are not the same distance...I think we have another "none runner" on our hands...
you must not be a soccer player. I played club soccer up to about age 14 before quitting before running and my juggling record was 1186. I would guess most of the pros can juggle for as long as they want to.
Med School Runner wrote:
If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
6:00 is 50% slower than 4:30? Don't you need to be able to do basic math in order to pass the MCAT?
I believe that the military uses 3 miles as a fitness test, thus the mentions. In fairness to "med school runner" and his sublime bedside manner ("Sir, the good news is that you will live, the bad news is that you're coming across as a jackass!"), I forgot to say that I've known this young guy for 12 years and he's not a runner. By MSR's standards, almost no one is a runner, apparently, but this particular person ran an 11:40 for the 1.5 mile run to qualify for SEAL training.
MSR -- you noted in another thread related to obese runners that running with a 50lb backpack on would instantly ruin your knees, so I'm guessing that you think this guy has a superior anatomy to your own?
In his defense, nobody "passes" the MCAT. You get a score from 3-45. You only need a high enough score to complement your GPA and research/volunteering credentials to get accepted. Although you pretty much won't get accepted unless you get at least a 22 or so and the average is like 30.5-31.
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Med School Runner wrote:If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
6:00 is 50% slower than 4:30? Don't you need to be able to do basic math in order to pass the MCAT?
I worked a running store a couple years ago, and fit a guy for shoes who was picking up running for the first time. He was 34, a smoker, and his goal he told me was to run a sub 4 min mile, because "it shouldn't be too hard to do based on what he'd seen on TV."
What years did you attend LB State?
a journalist wrote:
One Mile Run
1. Alan Scharsu, Austintown Fitch, 4:13.1
2. Timothy Griffith, Stow, 4:16.2
3. Robert Topping, The Plains Athens, 4:20.1
4. William O'Reilly, Lakewood, 4:20.6
5. Jim Luth, Chaney, 4:21.0
6. John Zishka, Lanceaster, 4:22.1
Wow. That is some list.
Scharsu was one of the better HS runners ever and an excellent college runner at Penn State splitting sub 4.
Griffith transferred from Kent State to Ohio University for his senior year after Kent dropped or threatened to drop track or XC. I don't think he broke 4, but was damn close if he didn't. He was a friend of mine.
Topping split sub 4 at SMU.
Luth ran very fast, near or under 4 at Akron or Youngstown State. I can't remember which.
Zishka, a soph, went on to run 13:55 & 4:03 in HS and was a multiple all-american at Penn State & Oregon.
Poor Mr. O'Reilly. I never heard much about him. Hopefully someone can add a success story for him as well.
Blowing.Rock Master wrote:
Med School Runner wrote:If he could run a 4:30 mile, running 50% slower at the same effort would mean he was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear... which he did.
6:00 is 50% slower than 4:30? Don't you need to be able to do basic math in order to pass the MCAT?
Teamdoc just stated that the guy ran 6 minute miles, which is pretty vague since its common to be nonspecific. The seal could have easily meant he ran in the 6 minute range. Now, 50% slower than 4:30 is 6:45, which is in the 6 minute range. Don't be a douche next time :)
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