NYC Mens preview - Brojos giving too much credit to Geoffrey Mutai

You give too much credit to the wind in Boston.

Let's see, he beat the guy who just set a CR in Chicago and beat the defending NYC champion handily in Boston. I don't give a crap about the time, look at the competition. Then add on the consistency, you've got a hell of a marathoner who deserves all the credit the brojos give him.

100-Ups! wrote:

You give too much credit to the wind in Boston.

Yeah, that's right. As Ryan Hall proved in backing up his 2:04 in Chicago.

Oh wait...

Yeah, that's right. It was in the 70s in Chicago and Ryan Hall proved he can run in hotter weather in Beijing..oh wait.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

Yeah, that's right. As Ryan Hall proved in backing up his 2:04 in Chicago.

Oh wait...

haha YO wrote:

Let's see, he beat the guy who just set a CR in Chicago and beat the defending NYC champion handily in Boston. I don't give a crap about the time, look at the competition. Then add on the consistency, you've got a hell of a marathoner who deserves all the credit the brojos give him.

Plus he's the reigning Kenyan cross country champion. If memory serves me, his only loss this year is a fifth at the World Cross Country Championships.

100-Ups! wrote:

Yeah, that's right. It was in the 70s in Chicago and Ryan Hall proved he can run in hotter weather in Beijing..oh wait.

Only for the 5+ hour runners. For everyone else, it was cool.

Haters gonna hate.

I agree with the OP that Emmanuel Mutai is the stronger of the two and will come out on top this Sunday.

Marathonguru_^3 wrote:

100-Ups! wrote:

Yeah, that's right. It was in the 70s in Chicago and Ryan Hall proved he can run in hotter weather in Beijing..oh wait.

Only for the 5+ hour runners. For everyone else, it was cool.

Because 60F at the start and 67F at the finish is optimal conditions, right?

Wow. 60% of Letsrun.com visitors bet on G. Mutai and only 11% on E. Mutai. Guys, you're in for a surprise.

Let me guess, if Emmanuel Mutai wins, you will bump this thread and told us how you knew it all along, and if Geoffrey Mutai wins, we will never here from you again.

I'm with you on this one. So far, two out of the two polls I've voted in the past has been right.

Geb Geb FTW!!!!

Marathonguru_^3 wrote:

Just because he "sailed" (literally) to a win in Boston

I have 2 issues with your moronic quote:

1) By using the word 'literally' that means he used a sail

2) Were you even there that day, or have you taken the hyperbole of others and exaggerated it for emphasis. (I ran the same course that same day and the wind didn't hurt, but I still ran my slowest race in 5 years despite what I thought was a great build-up and taper)

The bottom line is G. Mutai has recorded the fastest marathon time in the history of our world and dominated world class fields at shorter distances since then. He deserves all of the hype.

In case I lost you somewhere I will restate: He deserves all of the hype.

He's earned it wrote:

I have 2 issues with your moronic quote:

1) By using the word 'literally' that means he used a sail

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2) Were you even there that day, or have you taken the hyperbole of others and exaggerated it for emphasis. (I ran the same course that same day and the wind didn't hurt, but I still ran my slowest race in 5 years despite what I thought was a great build-up and taper)

By using the word 'literally' that means he sailed. His back was his sail. Besides, get some humor.

I am sorry for you and that you weren't able to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity.

The recent 2:03s makes Boston seem a lot more credible than many people thought. If anything, the wind just neutralized the tough hills. People will realize this next year when Mosop runs 2:02.

clearing the bs up wrote:

The recent 2:03s makes Boston seem a lot more credible than many people thought. If anything, the wind just neutralized the tough hills. People will realize this next year when Mosop runs 2:02.

Until no one comes close to 2:03 @ Boston for 10 years...

Surprise! wrote:

Until no one comes close to 2:03 @ Boston for 10 years...

To his defense - I believe he meant Mosop will run a 2:02 on a flat course. Hurricanes don't come that often in the right direction in MA.

But that's where it ends. Mosop is not going to run 2:02 anytime soon. To shave off 38s from the current WR may not seem much but that's almost 2s per mile, this is quite substantial. It would be like if someone came by and ran a 5k in 12:32min.

Anything can happen on race day, but as far as pre-race analysis goes, OP's logic doesn't stick. While each of the listed achievements would in itself justify hyping up G. Mutai as a favorite, well, the significant factor is that he's done 'em all...

"sailing in Boston"? Well, he beat a few heavyweights (including the defending NY champs) who all had equal access to sails.

"one-time wonders in Rotterdam"? Well, unlike Kwambai and Kibet, we're not looking at a single stellar performance.

"Comparing Mutai's time from Berlin 2010"? Well, why compare it to Makau's time a year later, when Makau was actually there, on the day, a whole two seconds faster (and seemingly a previously agreed upon order of finish). And on that day, water was coming in from all directions.