Silas Kiplagat runs incredible 3:31.39 at altitude with no pacers to win Kenyan Trials

the fox wrote:

3:31.39 While running sideways the last 50m.. pointing his finger and mocking Kiprop.. He could easily be under 3:30

3:30 pah! try 3:26 he's taking El G's WR down this summer you heard it here first.

I predict a 3:28 mid at Monaco if the race goes like last year. If not, than 3:30.xx. Silas Kiplagat, Amine Lalaou, Asbel Kiprop 1-2-3 at World Championships this year.

Rec Runner x wrote:

having pacers at american trials will increase the chances of sending the fastest performers

I agree with this.

But even though USTAF was slow, the US is still sending its fastest performers.

I think the final q at USATF should be assigned to lead the first 800 at world class pace. The others may ignore it, though.

It is not clear, though, the Kenyan Trials had a pacer. It just seems like Choge took the pace out, and paid for it.

And I predict Kiprop will be awarded gold as in Beijing after both the people who beat him are busted. You just can't beat everyone that easily and be clean. Did you see Laalou's domination? Yeah riiiiight.

nail him from behind wrote:

And I predict Kiprop will be awarded gold as in Beijing after both the people who beat him are busted. You just can't beat everyone that easily and be clean. Did you see Laalou's domination? Yeah riiiiight.

Silas Kiplagat is not dirty.

toro wrote:

Rec Runner x wrote:

having pacers at american trials will increase the chances of sending the fastest performers

I think the final q at USATF should be assigned to lead the first 800 at world class pace. The others may ignore it, though.

I'm sure the final qualifier would be thrilled to be forced to give up any chance of making the world championships and pace for everybody else.

ken ya wrote:

the fox wrote:

3:31.39 While running sideways the last 50m.. pointing his finger and mocking Kiprop.. He could easily be under 3:30

3:30 pah! try 3:26 he's taking El G's WR down this summer you heard it here first.

There's a world of difference between 3:31 and 3:26!

Just seen the end of the race, and while Kiplagat looked like he had a lot left at the finish, I doubt the altitude effected his performance at all. Kip Keino run his pb at Mexico City and never got near it again. Some Kenyans are not effected by altitude up to 1500, and if anything it probably benefits those running up to 800.

Also, he only turned round and "wagged his finger" in the last 40m and I doubt it cost him more than 0.5 sec. Lets give him 3:30.9. And, although I haven't seen the whole race, from splits I've seen, it would appear he was paced up to 1200m at least, with pretty even splits of 1:54 and 2:51. If he had 3 laps of 57 and then a 40 flat on the end, that's great, but no indication of a 3:26!

I think he'll probably pb in Monaco if he's taken to the bell in the 2:33-2:34 range economically. Let's say 3:28.5 - 3:29 flat.

Let's hope they have remembered to order the drug testing for that meet!

Rec Runner x wrote:

having pacers at american trails will increase the chances of sending the fastest performers

Excellent run by Kiplagat. Any one in the top eight of that race could destroy any american imho

So what?

Why don't we have a contest where we run everyone on the track of their choice, send in the time and have blind drawing.

The fastest time pulled out of the hat is the winner and world champion.

"incredible" = "no drug testing"[/quote]

Sad but true. We don't really know what goes on in these poor countries with desperated people trying to get away from poverty. It is a great place for Dr. Rosa to do his experiments without being concerned about drug tests like they do in the European cycling circuit. Not that drug tests are effective at all. The system just seem to be rotten to the core.[/quote]

You are right you don't know what is going on and have nothing to back up what you say. It's out of competition tests that are most effective anyway because everyone was at least epecting to get tested at the champs

Even Kenyans run slower at altitude so it is an amazing run

crazy person wrote:

I'm sure the final qualifier would be thrilled to be forced to give up any chance of making the world championships and pace for everybody else.

Add a 13th qualifier to do this then, that wouldn't otherwise be in the final.

At a quicker pace, it wouldn't make the race too crowded.

But they have to stop letting people into the finals that stumble in the prelims.

considering the frequency with which kenyans peak at nationals and fail to replicate the performance at world champs and olympic games, i am not at all impressed.

Kiplagat doped his ass to the gills and likely peaked for these trials. He won't be wagging a finger next month when Laalou destroys him and everyone else.

Kip Kenton, ran what 3;33? At 7000+ feet in dirty MX city in 1968. 3;31+ @ 5200 not all that huh??

Kip Kenton, ran what 3;33? At 7000+ feet in dirty MX city in 1968. 3;31+ @ 5200 not all that huh??

2000meters wrote:

Kip Kenton, ran what 3;33? At 7000+ feet in dirty MX city in 1968. 3;31+ @ 5200 not all that huh??

Keino ran 3:34.9 at around 7300 feet (I've seen various reports of the precise altitude) in 1968. I agree that, when seen in light of Keino's run forty-three years ago, 3:31+ at somewhere around 5500 feet doesn't seem all that remarkable, although it's certainly a fine run.

The talk of an "altitude record" seems a bit misleading. The effect of Nairobi's altitude on an acclimated 1500m runner shouldn't be very great. The altitude of Mexico City or Iten is quite something else (although I think that the effect of altitude on acclimated 1500m runners is, in general, greatly exaggerated).

Tightus Andronicus wrote:

The Kenyan Trials has to be the most intense athletic event in the world performed in front of less than 300 people.

Intense yes, but no need to so severely 'under-exaggerate' the crowd size. If you look at 0:34 into the video posted by the next person, there are clearly far more persons in the stands. Assuming seating all around the track packed as fully, I'd estimate around 8000 persons watching.

deanouk wrote:Just seen the end of the race, and while Kiplagat looked like he had a lot left at the finish, I doubt the altitude effected his performance at all. Kip Keino run his pb at Mexico City and never got near it again. Some Kenyans are not effected by altitude up to 1500

Lets give him 3:30.9

I think he'll probably pb in Monaco if he's taken to the bell in the 2:33-2:34 range economically. Let's say 3:28.5 - 3:29 flat

eh ???

how are these statements consistent ???

if you are saying he was worth 3'30.9 in nairobi & can go 3'28.5 - 3'29.0 at sea-level, how on earth does that indicate altitude didn't affect his performance ???

Altitude does not effect Kenyans, which is why so many sub 13's have been run in Kenya.

at altitude???