"You'll ruin your knees!"
"You'll ruin your knees!"
"You only have X number of miles in you over a lifetime.."
"Running wears out your knees"
"You should run longer races as you age because you get slower"
"Speed kills"
Distance training affects sprinter speed.
Another Option wrote:
* Chocolate milk is a better recovery drink than Gatorade, Powerade, and water after high intensity, moderate duration workouts.
* More miles will make you faster
* Speed work causes you to peak
* An easy run the morning after a hard workout helps flush the lactic acid out of your system
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The worst kind of fallacy is the type that has an element of truth.
Three of the four are actually true. You are either trolling or you are slow.
wefvwef wrote:
Another Option wrote:* Chocolate milk is a better recovery drink than Gatorade, Powerade, and water after high intensity, moderate duration workouts.
The worst kind of fallacy is the type that has an element of truth.
ACtually, there are plenty of studies which have proven that
Cite them. I think there is one study that wasn't based on high intensity, moderate duration workouts - it was based on performance in two long duration, moderate intensity workouts separated by several hours when no other food was ingested. I look forward to hearing about all these other supporting studies you believe exist.
johnnyb1610 wrote:
Another Option wrote:* Chocolate milk is a better recovery drink than Gatorade, Powerade, and water after high intensity, moderate duration workouts.
* More miles will make you faster
* Speed work causes you to peak
* An easy run the morning after a hard workout helps flush the lactic acid out of your system
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The worst kind of fallacy is the type that has an element of truth.
Three of the four are actually true. You are either trolling or you are slow.
Which three do you think are true?
1) Chocolate milk - read carefully and provide the proof.
2) There is an optimal number of miles for each person. Running more will not always make you faster. Your body has to be able to recover to get stronger. If more miles makes you faster, Dean K ought to be one of the fastest guys around.
3) There is far more to peaking than just doing speedwork, and while speedwork may be a component in a peaking phase I would claim that speedwork is also part of other phases as well.
4) Lactic acid only exists for a very short time in your body. You are not flushing out lactic acid from a workout with a run the next day.
Cool down jogs after races help
"well no wonder you're faster than I am, you're like three inches taller..." >:|
Not all distance runners look like Galen Rupp. Some of us look like men with muscle definition.
Another Option wrote:
Cite them. I think there is one study that wasn't based on high intensity, moderate duration workouts - it was based on performance in two long duration, moderate intensity workouts separated by several hours when no other food was ingested. I look forward to hearing about all these other supporting studies you believe exist.
Got Google?
http://www.whymilk.com/pdfs/ACSM_Study_Details.pdfhttp://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/152240.phphttp://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20060224/chocolate-milk-new-sports-drinkA distance runner can be hot.
Running is healthy and good for your heart.
mofomasap wrote:
The 10% rule obviously can't be true all the time. What if you're at 10 MPW, are you supposed to go 10, 11, 12.1, 13.31, 14.641...?
Its even worse if you start with 1 mile.
1, 1.1, 1.21, 1.33, 1.47, 1.62,...11.92 (at 6 months),..., 142.06 (at 12 months),..., 1551.04 (at 18 months)
Obviously the rule works well in the 60-80 mpw, but it falls apart at low or extremely high mileage.
I often read accounts on other forums of marathoners cramping badly or otherwise suffering large amounts of calf or quads distress toward the end of hilly marathons. Whenever this happens, a half-dozen posters rush to tell the guy he ran out of potassium and needed a few bananas. Right. It's not the fact that the dude tried racing a marathon off 30 miles a week and a long run of 16, it's an electrolyte imbalance! I wonder if the same people drive on Interstate highways at 60 mph in second gear and blame the type of motor oil they use when their shitwagon eventually winds up stalled in the breakdown lane.
You should start doing long intervals and do shorter stuff closer to your "peak".
East Africans dont use EPO.
Fishing Instructor wrote:
[quote]Another Option wrote:
Cite them. I think there is one study that wasn't based on high intensity, moderate duration workouts - it was based on performance in two long duration, moderate intensity workouts separated by several hours when no other food was ingested. I look forward to hearing about all these other supporting studies you believe exist.
Thank you for the citations. I stand by my original assertion that chocolate milk has not been proven as a better recovery drink than gatorade, powerade, or water after high intensity, moderate duration workouts..
Got Google?
http://www.whymilk.com/pdfs/ACSM_Study_Details.pdf* Two of the three studies were not based on impact on athletes after high intensity moderate duration workouts. The first study was a one day study with 3 athletes/treatment. I am interested to see the level of statistical confidence in thier conclusions, but I appreciate the link.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/152240.php* The researchers never concluded that chocolate milk was superior. The conclusions:
"The results indicate that lowfat chocolate milk is effective in the recovery and repair of muscles after intense training for these competitive soccer players.
This new study adds to a growing body of evidence suggesting milk may be just as effective as some commercial sports drinks in helping athletes recover and rehydrate."
** "just as effective" does not equal "better"
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20060224/chocolate-milk-new-sports-drinkThis was the original study that was definitely not based on high intensity, moderate duration activity.
You should elevate your legs after races to "drain out the lactic acid." This sounds like something a kid would think, so I'm always surprised to see otherwise intelligent people doing it.
East Africans are not genetically superior to white people.
"Stretching helps you run faster"
"Stretching helps you avoid injuries"
Bah, unproven. There are some studies that support and other studies which say no. Very ambiguous.
Great analogy, It is what it ain't!
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