it's what i've seen 1st hand running significant numbers of races on both well kept dirt & synthetic in my youth & proportioning my modest times to elites
how many dirt & then synthetic races you run ???
it's also the figure used by plenty of ole timers here who also ran on both
we are talking well kept, undishevelled dirt
it woud be helluva lot more than 1s/lap on late-in-the-meet chewed up dirt - see bob hayes
moron
we are not talking quagmires
where's the 3'33.1 in white city ???
i'm not posting the dyestat photo of ryun's 1500 for the 10th time as you've seen it enough times idiot & your numbskull can't comprehend how chewed up looking the lane 1 was
no moron
it's for any race, 100m & above appropriately proportioned
it's personal experience analysed scientifically & experience of plenty of guys who also ran on both in same form
name 1
& that idiot mel watman who left school at 15 isn't intellectually qualified as one
i'm surprised how much of an idiot you are
you can't do simple arithmetic & your day job is a schoolteacher in maths !
you must teach 5y ole retards arithmetic
3'51 - 4 - 3 - 2 = 3'42
NOT
3'47
are you too stoopid to do this sum ???
moron
you were 10y+ from being born when they were running fantastic times in the '60s
kid
f*** off & don't tell us guys who were around in those days what was possible or not
you clearly are too dumb to understand that talent transcends eras - secretariat still holds the wr & it's now 37y ole & not one horse has come close
elliot was worth 3'28/3'29 off his near or actual solo 3'35
snell probably slightly inferior at 3'29/3'30 but he was a better 800 guy & his wr possibly a mid/high 1'42 on a '70s track
ron, likely a 13'00/27'10 guy off his wrs
the key is, training for events upto a mile has not significantly improved in 40+y & why guys like hayes, tommie smith, lee evans woud be running 9.8/19.6/43.8 if teleported to '70s along with elliot/snell/ryun as stated but ron woud suffer as longer distance training seems to have been inefficient compared to today - because they incorporate more aerobic work & weight-training
see above idiot
running on dirt handicapped their times HUGELY
they were ALL hand timed in that era outside of games
& his 800 was on grasstex - a SEMI-synthetic track, not a true synthetic track
& he ran that in '66 when he was clearly inferior to '67 when at his peak, not to mention i'll when he ran 1'44.3 explaining the -ve splits & fatigue of a 1'51 prelim 3 hours earlier in his legs
name them moron
& i want ones with quality scientific degrees from reputable universities, not tradesmen who left school at 15y
moron
see above
ryun actually held 800 wr, those 2 didn't
& if a juvenile tied wr on a semi-synthetic off -ve splits when ill with a prelim earlier, i'd guestimate, he'd have run 0.5s/lap quicker on '70s track for semi-synthetic, yielding low-1'43
then factor in illness ( reason he ran -ve splits - see his interview ), adjust for -ve splits, adjust for fatigue of a prelim 3 hours earlier ( & moron, NO ONE chooses to run a 800 few hours before if they want to attempt a 800 wr - show where rudy/kip/coe/cruz ran an 800 three hours before their wrs/pbs ??? )
thus his '66 run is easily close to 1'42-flat in '70s
& he was helluva stronger/faster in '67...
moron
ryun likely had 1'41 speed in '67
you don't need any wr calibre over-distance endurance for 1500 if you bring this much speed to the table - moderate over-distance ability is more than enough
noah ran 3'43 with 7'35 endurance
kip had no 1500 ability whatsoever, didn't stop him running 1'41.1
moorcroft ran 13'00wr - what the f*** was his 10k pb ???
you are too stoopid or biased to read/comprehend what i've posted 1/2 dozen times before
ryun was a quantum level above these guys for 800/1500
is the concept "secretariat" too difficult to understand moron ???
moron
see above for elliot/snell/ron
i'd add keino was probably in 3'30 shape in mexico
i'm offering unbiased logic based analysis based on 40y experience primarily based on maths AFTER observation of races - americans/ozzies/kiwis/kenyans all included above
you offer low-level, kindergarden teacher nonsense - incapable of any lateral thinking or acceptance of precedence - see secretariat