In 1987 Paul Vandegrift (Archbishop Kennedy, PA) went 1:48 for 800 and for 3200 went very close to 9:00 if not under. It was an mid-season race that he won over then soph Jason DiJoseph (Paul VI, NJ). DiJoseph later that season ran 8:58. Vandegrift went on to run 4:03 / 1:50 double at the State meet in very hot conditions and a week later ran 1:48.
And as previously stated, Vandegrift was a Kinney XC finalist finishing 4th.
Name HS runners who have gone sub9:00 3200m AND sub 1:50
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Wade Meddles 4:08 and 8:52 I think he is from NV.
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Interesting, but are you only looking at the girls post-2000? Surely there must have been runners who did it in the 80s? Did Mary Decker ever run 3200?
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Ryun is on the "HS Distance Gods" list at 9:04.0 so he doesn't make it even with the conversion.
As I read through the thread the only American HSers who meet the qualifications in the title of the thread are Webb and Spivey (with 880y conversion).
I find this interesting because there is a master who popped up on our local scene who ran 8:56 3200 in HS (won Illinois state meet) and then ran 1:50.3 in college. I found myself asking: how many Americans broke 9 in HS and then, at any point in their lives, went on to break 1:50. I bet it's not very many: might not be more than single digits.
The "HS Distance Gods" list would be the place to start, although it's only good through '03 or so.
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very few HS runners go sub 1:50, so this question is a bit much. it should be something like sub 1:53.
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jsully wrote:
ifififi wrote:
I wonder what girl had the best 800 and 3200/2M combo. Sarah Bowman? Wasn't she 2:04 / 10:16?
Of course Kim Gallagher did 2:00 and 9:19 3k ... and even 16:34 5k on the track. Guess that's by far the best combo ever. Webb's by far the best for boys.
US girls that have gone sub 2:10m and 10:30m:
Alejandra Barrientos
Ari Lambie
Brianna Felnagle
Chelsey Sveinsson (2:08.46, 10:04.85y)
Cheri Williams
Cory Schubert
Emily Infeld
Emily Lipari
Erin Donohue
Jodie Bilotta
Jordan Hasay (2:09.64, 9:52.13)
Katelyn Kaltenbach
Kim Gallagher (2:00.07, 10:27.5y)
Maddie Meyers
Sarah Bowman (2:04.94, 10:16.03)
Suzy Favor
I'm pretty sure Gallagher's 9:19 3k converts to a 10:00 2-mile or sub-10 3200. -
Anyone know Finnerty's 800 times? I have to go do homework, but he went like 4:01 and 8:4X for the mile and 2 mile, and I think I recall Burnsville doing well in the 4x800 at state his senior year.
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Benedict wrote:
In 1987 Paul Vandegrift (Archbishop Kennedy, PA) went 1:48 for 800 and for 3200 went very close to 9:00 if not under. It was an mid-season race that he won over then soph Jason DiJoseph (Paul VI, NJ). DiJoseph later that season ran 8:58. Vandegrift went on to run 4:03 / 1:50 double at the State meet in very hot conditions and a week later ran 1:48.
And as previously stated, Vandegrift was a Kinney XC finalist finishing 4th.
Besides Webb and perhaps Ryan Hall, Vandegrift is the only H.S. athlete that could have done the aformentioned quad. -
1:50 is probably equivelent to 4:06 for 1600 and 8:48 for 3200.
I'm sure over 100 kids have gone sub 4:10 and 9:00. I would bet not much more than 50 have broke 1:50 in high school. Probably more like 35. -
2 mile became an accepted and oft run (every dual meet and invites) event in 1965
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yogi wrote:
Ryun is on the "HS Distance Gods" list at 9:04.0 so he doesn't make it even with the conversion.
As I read through the thread the only American HSers who meet the qualifications in the title of the thread are Webb and Spivey (with 880y conversion).
I find this interesting because there is a master who popped up on our local scene who ran 8:56 3200 in HS (won Illinois state meet) and then ran 1:50.3 in college. I found myself asking: how many Americans broke 9 in HS and then, at any point in their lives, went on to break 1:50. I bet it's not very many: might not be more than single digits.
The "HS Distance Gods" list would be the place to start, although it's only good through '03 or so.
http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/nats/gods.htm
Nice job picking up that Ryun didn't break 9:00. Concerning sub 9:00 high schoolers who went on to later break 1:50 that is an interesting question. Usually a sub 9:00 high schooler is a long distance guy who moves up to the 5000 or 10,000 in college. The only ones I can think of for sure that did it are Galen Rupp and Tim Hacker who ran 1:48 or 1:49. Others that might have but I'm not sure of are John Trautman, German Fernandez, Rudy Chapa but I never recall any of them running 1:49. -
It seems like Webb and Spivey are the only Americans to do it.
Another guy that was close that I don't think was mentioned is Lukezic. He ran 1:51/9:04 open times and a 1:49.6 split at nationals. -
I know some Texans that did either sub 1:50 and sub 4:10 or sub 9:00 were Reuben Reina, Leonel Manzano, Steve Magness, and Duncan Phillips.
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I think Guy ran close to 1:50 but not sure of 1600. Magness has 6th best mile/1600 of all time / Reina had great 3200 times / John Robinson ran at Pasadena Dobie like Gawain Guy and held Texas record for 1600 for long time til Magness broke it. He also had some quick 800 meter times.
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Sully split a 1:51 something and ran a 9:13 for 2 miles. He probably could have run 1:45 and 8:30 if he was allowed to compete with his tuxedo t-shirt and Mr. G's black hat.
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Matt DeBole split 1:50.3 for 800 meters in the Sprint Medley at Outdoor Nationals and ran 8:50 for 3200 that year at Arcadia.
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Hammond High School ought to be added on that list of schools (if I read it correctly) with having 3 sub 9:00 2 milers in the same year. Rudy Chapa, Carey Pinkowski, and Tim Keough.
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This is Crazy wrote:
This is interesting. I could only think of Alan Webb without research, but I actually want to know which high school runners have done AT LEAST 2 out of the following: Sub 15:00 5k, Sub 4:10 1600m, sub 9:00 3200m and sub 1:51 (I'll take a 1:50).
Prefontaine went 1:54, 4:06, 8:41, and 13:52 -
the bacumanotr wrote:
I know some Texans that did either sub 1:50 and sub 4:10 or sub 9:00 were Reuben Reina, Leonel Manzano, Steve Magness, and Duncan Phillips.
What you are saying is that all of these guys ran under 1:50. But none did.
Steve Magness had a HS best of 1:52.7.
Duncan Phillips 1:50.65.
Manzano 1:50.48
Can't find Reina's HS time. But I seriously doubt he ran under 1:50. He's not on this 800 meter list:
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Hall and Carl Moe were close.
