It's incredible that there is little out there on the way Ethiopians train. You can easily find out about Kenyan training methods, but the only glimpse into Ethiopian training is a week out of Gebreselassie's log.
Does anyone know anything about their training structure?
They dope. I mean it doesn't make any sense to me that some years runners like Kenenisa Bekele and Sihine just completely disappear and then are so dominant on championship years. WTF. So sketchy..
jadjf;a wrote:
They dope. I mean it doesn't make any sense to me that some years runners like Kenenisa Bekele and Sihine just completely disappear and then are so dominant on championship years. WTF. So sketchy..
Bekele ran 4 of the 5 fastest times in 2006 and won every one of those races. He won at least one world or olympic title from 2003-2009....
Kenenisa and Sileshi went the same place as Alan Webb, Dan Lincoln, Lauren Fleshman, Liu Xiang, German Fernandez and a whole lot of others: the disabled list.
You will remember how Bekele dominated the last non-championship year, winning five out of six Golden League meets, running under 13:00 six times and under 12:50 twice.
Most top Ethiopians are coached by Ethiopians, and European languages aren't nearly as common in Ethiopia as they are in Kenya.
They often have links with sketchy European agents/managers and doctors though.
Behind every great Ethiopian athlete there's an Italian doctor? Why Italian? I don't understand why an Ethiopian would need a link with an Italian doctor?
Or Lance Armstrong for that matter. Just a shame he chose the one that become the (second) most famous doping doctor in history. Why didn't he get his 'extra training' from one who wasn't going to become quite so famous?
They tend to run faster.
Former soviet backed state need we say anymore.
I don't care about doping or whatever. You can't just dope, sit around, and become the best runners in the world.
I want to know about their TRAINING.
I could tell you about our training methods but you wouldn't be able to understand them. Actually, wait, I don't speak english, so I can't tell you anything.
trollism wrote:
Behind every great Ethiopian athlete there's an Italian doctor?
Could you list the Italian doctors behind all the World and Olympic Champions from Ethiopia?
trollism wrote:
Behind every great Ethiopian athlete there's an Italian doctor? Why Italian?
Because Italy once claimed Ethiopia as part of its 'Empire'...kind of like Kenyans speaking English, only less so as Italian is hardly the 'lingua franca' of the world.
Read the book on Geb, 'The Greatest'. It suggests the main influences were the Soviets - as good communists in the 60s, a lot of them went on coaching courses in Russia, including (AFAIR) their national coach.
My limited impression is that they did a lot of mileage plus sprints and drills. Jos Hermens, Geb's manager, was famously a mileage man until his Achilles snapped at 200mpw.
Could you list the Italian doctors behind all the World and Olympic Champions from Ethiopia?[/quote]
Perhaps he means that lowlife c********* Josh Hermanns....
Herm the Germ originally from Holland, now African King.
history tutor wrote:
trollism wrote:Behind every great Ethiopian athlete there's an Italian doctor? Why Italian?
Because Italy once claimed Ethiopia as part of its 'Empire'...kind of like Kenyans speaking English, only less so as Italian is hardly the 'lingua franca' of the world.
Read the book on Geb, 'The Greatest'. It suggests the main influences were the Soviets - as good communists in the 60s, a lot of them went on coaching courses in Russia, including (AFAIR) their national coach.
The Derg didn't take over Ethiopia until 1974. Prior to that, Ethiopia was a monarchy under Emperor Haile Selassie I. The primary architect of Ethiopia's program during the 1960s was Onni Niskanen.
Why do people think there is some hidden magic in how Ethiopians train when they are adults and professionals? It seems obvious they are superior in how they grow up and genetically.
I did some training with Ethiopians
The one thing it is not is the training you will see here 100 miles a week with 2 workouts and a few strides!
Its similar to Kenyan training. It's late and I'm off to bed will post some tomorrow
Yes you are you racist ass hole!! Take you white ass out and train hard like most of us.
Augusto Pérez wrote:
The Derg didn't take over Ethiopia until 1974. Prior to that, Ethiopia was a monarchy under Emperor Haile Selassie I. The primary architect of Ethiopia's program during the 1960s was Onni Niskanen.
Apologies for misremembering the dates and thanks for the correction.
Basically they do doubles, one really early in the morning. The 2nd is around 11:00am or midday
Every time I trained with them on the 2nd session they were doing some sort of workout. These are the workouts I saw:
Zig Zags. 90% sprint on diagonal across football pitch, fast jog behind posts x 40
Tempo run on grass 40-60 mins. (this was 18 years ago before I'd even heard of a tempo run)
Track session. 12 x 400m 30/45 sec recovery in 60/61. Only 2 out of 6 of them completed the session
This was the only track session they did, The coach said as it was raining the grass was too splippy
The main difference with some European training (at that time at least) is the almost daily workouts and training on grass whenever possbile
After the 2nd session of the day they would all clear off to bed for a couple of hours. That is the main difference really they just run and rest