jjjjjjj wrote:
why the hatred? the man won 7 straight tours during an era in which all of his competitors doped. so, either he was better straight than all of the others or in the all drug tdf he was the best. why dislike him for defending himself? the french love richard virenque, the many time k of the mtns, despite his positive test. why hate lance?
Wow... this thread really degenerated. How in the world did "tea baggers" become an arguing point? Anyway, I'm sick and tired of hearing people say that it is ok if Lance gets away with cheating, because he was the best of the cheating riders, and would have beaten them all had everyone in the peloton been clean.
If it is found that Lance was also guilty of doping, we still do not know definitively who the best would have been in a TDF void of drugs. Would Lance have caved in workouts or during the race itself without the aid of drugs and infusions where another rider, also riding clean would have not? Did Lance react to the PED's in a more physiologically dramatic and favorable way than other competitors did? Landis has claimed that until he convinced the manager of Phonak to take up systemized doping, that he could not keep up in the tour with riders from teams that were on USPS' type of program... was it the doping regimen and resources behind the man and bike that won those tours, while more naturally gifted, harder working clean riders, or even riders who were also doping without a wizard like Ferrari because they could afford the bikes and staff but not the premium PED resources bought with laundered Trek gear failed to measure up?
We will never know, and THAT is the real tragedy behind PED's and endurance sports. You introduce another nasty element to an equation that should be relatively simple, that should at some level be controlled and have agreed upon boundaries. Instead you have all of these questions floating around: who was doping? who had the best regimen? how would training have gone differently without the drugs? who would have acquired sponsorships w/o dirty performances? who would have made it to the start line without the boost in recovery, the hormones and steroids and EPO that helped subvert injury?
If Lance doped, I for one hope he goes down as one of the greatest con artists in the history of sport. If he's clean, he may be the most impressive athlete of the modern era. Until we figure it out, I'm rooting for this guy:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nondoping-cyclists-finish-tour-de-france,2268/