ritz, teg, solinsky working out together

SubOneForty wrote:

you guys are all idiots, LV is on EPO too. So is Alex Hatz. So is every runner out there./

No, just the three white dudes who broke 13:00 within months of each other.

RE:

It's funny how he has disappeared for a while and hasn't raced (and therefore won't be tested"

--- Are you idiotic? he has been injured and would love to be racing. The drug testers do come in our out of racing season. That is a guarantee.

Keep wishing you could ever have talent like that.. Its called professional athletes who live day in and day out having every LEGAL edge possible. Its called naps, altitude, massage, ice, food, a great coach, group to train with, and years and years of hard work.

Every time I say Dathan Ritzenhein I feel like I have a cold or something...

SubOneForty wrote:

you guys are all idiots, LV is on EPO too. So is Alex Hatz. So is every runner out there. That kid you see on the street jogging at 9 minute mile pace? That's EPO, HGH. you guys are pathetic. someone does good for you and you must bash them. its sad really :/

I assume you are talking to me since you said "all idiots" and replied to my post. I guess you didn't read my first response or had a hard time comprehending it.

completely wrong wrote:

--- Are you idiotic? he has been injured and would love to be racing. The drug testers do come in our out of racing season. That is a guarantee.

Running isn't bicycling. Drug testers do not come during the off-season in running. You are completely wrong and you are a complete idiot.

Alberto Conte wrote:

Who sends urine to complete strangers?

I do it all the time. Post your address here and I'll mail you a couple of Gatorade bottles of it. A bottle of urine is great for breaking the ice at parties.

Yeah...well maybe just think of the talent and hard work it takes to run around 8:41 for two miles as a junior (Ritz) and then think of what adding in years of hard work. Then you get someone who can run under 13. If guys like Derek Scott who ran 4:25 in HS can get under 4, then guys like Ritz who ran 4:05.8 and 8:41 can get under 13.

And to be correct..all runner are on EPO. Erythropoietin as well as many other hormones and enzymes are naturally occuring in the body.

fdasfdas has got it right!

Ritz ran 14:10 for 5000 meters his senior year, I was there at Brooklyn (aka the speedway). He had run 14:35 the year before as a junior. He won both national high school cc championships both years.

He's very, very talented. He was not on EPO then, or any other drugs and I personally don't believe he is now, but the immature posters will call me an idiot and that's okay as they hide behind their keyboards.

Bill Rodgers never ran faster than 2:09:27, which happened at the 1979 Boston Marathon. Bill never ran anywhere near Dathan's high school times. Dathan should have no problem breaking 2:10 under "normal" conditions, no major injuries or illnesses and at least average weather. Bill did not break 2:10 after his first marathon and in fact broke it twice that I know of. Yes, it was a different time, we all know that, but Dathan has a lot more natural talent that Bill ever did and Bill was amazing for his time.

Dathan will run a fast marathon and when he does many will claim it's drugs, not years & years of hard training and ball busting workouts that show he can run such times. A marathon is not 100 meters, things don't always click on "that day".

Shame on a lot of you and if I were him, I would absolutely consider legal action against any poster who has "slandered" him, even though it's technically libel. Laugh if you will, but one day posts like those won't be allowed and people will have to face up to their typed words. Ryan Hall, Dathan, Solinsky, Webb, etc....are hard-working athletes. Many will call me naive, hardly. I am realistic and realize that these guys are tough cookies who do amazing workouts which produce great times.

To drop 15 seconds in a 5000 meter race is not impossible and drugs aren't required to do it, even at their level. Decent workouts, tapering properly, rest, weather, other athletes in the race, raw talent, feeling great "that" day, etc., to name a few, all play a role.

Laugh if you will, but your hollow allegations are pathetic and what a sad site Letsrun has become. Well done moderators and owners.

not necessarily you, i just clicked reply to you for unknown reasons. sorry if that offended you.

Lets Run Pharmacy Expert wrote:

Running isn't bicycling. Drug testers do not come during the off-season in running. You are completely wrong and you are a complete idiot.

You've got your tinfoil hat on too tight. You know you could actually look all this stuff up.

Professional athletes have to let USADA know where they are at all times and can be tested at any time:

It's all on the USADA.org website, including how many times someone has been tested. In the first quarter of 2010 there were 436 tests in competition and 1432 tests out of competition, so most tests were out of competition.

Ritz for instance was tested twice in the first quarter of 2010 even tho he's been injured and hasn't raced this year:

Thank you, that guy has lost all credibility in first not knowing how the drugs work and second not knowing how the testing system works in the U.S.

Absolutely no credibility, simply libel. Defamatory false allegations are can be taken to court, I'd love to see this coward sued for his weightless allegations.

Be nice to have a Nike lawyer track that IP address and make an example of him.

Don't get me wrong, I don't pretend to know with certainty who is or who is not on drugs, but claiming with some sort of certainty that someone is on drugs and damaging their public with no proof or inside knowledge is simply unacceptable.

Your kidding, right? Do you know so little about what they call OOC Out Of Competition - Testing. If you look at the marks up to 1988 and then look after 1988 you will see a decided drop in performance in the events where strength is most important, weight events, especially for women, because men naturally produce more themselves whereas women are more limited. Only 21 years behind the times; how old did you say you were?

Lets Run Pharmacy Expert wrote:

completely wrong wrote:

--- Are you idiotic? he has been injured and would love to be racing. The drug testers do come in our out of racing season. That is a guarantee.

Running isn't bicycling. Drug testers do not come during the off-season in running. You are completely wrong and you are a complete idiot.

Actually, I heard Nike is now hiding Osmama Bin Laden, the head of BP, and the Iranian nuclear program in the basement of their main building. And OJ is there still looking for the real killer.

Yeah Really wrote:

Alberto Conte wrote:

Who sends urine to complete strangers?

I do it all the time. Post your address here and I'll mail you a couple of Gatorade bottles of it. A bottle of urine is great for breaking the ice at parties.

I think the real question is who DOESN'T send their urine to strangers?

MikeM wrote:

Yeah...well maybe just think of the talent and hard work it takes to run around 8:41 for two miles as a junior (Ritz) and then think of what adding in years of hard work. Then you get someone who can run under 13. If guys like Derek Scott who ran 4:25 in HS can get under 4, then guys like Ritz who ran 4:05.8 and 8:41 can get under 13.

He is not the first US junior to run 8:41. Nor will he be the last. The difference is the other guys did not run 12:56. I guess the other guys were all just lazy.

superpeds wrote:

He is not the first US junior to run 8:41. Nor will he be the last. The difference is the other guys did not run 12:56. I guess the other guys were all just lazy.[/quote]

i think ritz has the junior class record. . .

littlemeatchunks wrote:

superpeds wrote:

He is not the first US junior to run 8:41. Nor will he be the last. The difference is the other guys did not run 12:56. I guess the other guys were all just lazy.

i think ritz has the junior class record. . .[/quote]

While the age of most seniors.

Lets Run Pharmacy Expert wrote:

Running isn't bicycling. Drug testers do not come during the off-season in running. You are completely wrong and you are a complete idiot.

They certainly do in Europe. Get to a certain level and you have to post notice of all your movements so they can find you any day. They can show up any time at all, and they do. Maybe the USA has some special exemption?

Agree totally.