Tyson Gay 400m - 44.89

I was wondering when Calvin Smith would move up. How old is he now, about 52?

SMJO wrote:

I was wondering when Calvin Smith would move up. How old is he now, about 52?

Now that's funny!

Didn't know Tom Jones was such a big track fan to have his own meet. Did he provide the entertainment and sing his classic Whats New Pussycat ? That would have been something to see.

Peter Elliot wrote:

Peter Elliot also ran under 1:43... and have a very good mile time also (3:47 or 3:48)!

It's funny how people always forget about Elliot when talkin about the best brits mid distance runners...

Peter Elliott @ mile

1988 3:49.20

1990 3:49.76

1991 3:49.46

The meet was put on in honor of late University of Florida women’s head track and field coach Tom Jones, who died of cancer a few years back.

BSDetector wrote:

Policyyhre wrote:

Black guys could rule the mile and 800m

all they need some is some solid aerobic training.

If you mean from West African descent, you would be wrong, as aerobic training robs speed.

yeah the 5k destroyed El g's speed.........

Wow, Gay should move up to the 400. He ain't winning any golds at 100 or 200 the rest of his career.

proof wrote:

Wow, Gay should move up to the 400. He ain't winning any golds at 100 or 200 the rest of his career.

And everyone else in the 100m and 200m should do what?

BSDetector wrote:

Policyyhre wrote:

Black guys could rule the mile and 800m

all they need some is some solid aerobic training.

If you mean from West African descent, you would be wrong, as aerobic training robs speed.

this is an idiotic statement. please do some research before you post.

goomb wrote:

If Usain can run faster, why hasn't he? He has run 45.X 3 or 4 times over the past few years.

Bolt HAS run faster. He just split a 43.xx the other day. No top-level pro sprinter takes an additional entire second to convert a relay time to an open 400 time.

Relay times don't mean shit compared with real, automatically timed results. The guy has a running start for crying out loud.

Tyson should move up to the 400M since Bolt is not particularly interested in doing it, at least not yet. The current crop of 400M runners are average and not really stellar. If Bolt remains healthy and continues to improve, a frightening thought, a win in the 100/200M may be out of reach for anyone else but Bolt. Tyson's 44.89 is a very good time especially this early in the season and would have given him a bronze medal in last years World Championship. The fastest time in the 400m last year was 44.06 so with intense training Tyson could go for a 400M gold in 2012.

Video on Flotrack: http://www.flotrack.org/videos/play/327602-tyson-gay-4489-race

Is this Calvin Smith related to the 100M record holder from back in the day who was on the relay team that won at the LA games I think?

Looks like a real sex bomb of a performance.

It is not a question of whether East and North African can run distance. The original poster was making the point that "Sprinters", meaning Blacks of West African descent, could be great distance runner if they trained for it.

"This question comes up often: is it appropriate for young sprinters and athletes in sprint-interval team sports to establish an aerobic base with long, slow distances?

With few exceptions -- perhaps professional athletes recovering from an intense season -- the answer is "NO"

It is a waste of time -- and perhaps counterproductive -- to train with long slow distances.

There is a neuromuscular consequence for everything we do -- including endurance workouts. This means we are forming habits at all times -- physiological habits that might be very difficult to break.

Patterns of slow strides are imprinted just as "permanently" into our neuromuscular memory as the quick strides that a sprinter would like to record.

Do you get it now?

i think black guys just rule track in general...look at the top 10 times of all track events...mostly black guys

what say you wrote:

goomb wrote:

If Usain can run faster, why hasn't he? He has run 45.X 3 or 4 times over the past few years.

Bolt HAS run faster. He just split a 43.xx the other day. No top-level pro sprinter takes an additional entire second to convert a relay time to an open 400 time.

Bolt's 43.58 relay split was a very rough split taken by someone with a stop watch. How a tin pot meeting like that can give a 400 relay split to the nearest 100 is anyone's guess. You can't even see the point he takes over the baton on any video available on the Net or anywhere. If you find it on Youtube and time the last 300m of his run from the link, you get the following: 10.0 11.2 13.1 For a last 300m of 34.2. I doubt the first 100m was as fast as 9.3. I think a low 44 split looks more likely. It was a stupendous run nonetheless, but a c. 44.2 400split in a relay is worth about 44.8 (1.0 sec conversion too much for an almost standing start, 0.5-0.7 more realistic) . That's pretty much exactly the same time Gay has just run. They are both pretty evenly matched at 400m

dart frog wrote:

BSDetector wrote:

If you mean from West African descent, you would be wrong, as aerobic training robs speed.

yeah the 5k destroyed El g's speed.........

Is El G from West Africa?