ALAN WEBB

meyer, diemer, sullivan...all had one good year...right...you are a dumb ass

Your the bumb ass.

A few things to keep in mind smart ass.

All of those guys did not

A)Last that long

B)Peak at the right time of the season

They all had been worked up to just about there peak levels from other coaches

R.Wohurst Will get people to run fast, but they will not last.

K Sull Is a good runner has run fast, but he has really not getten better since he started working with RW. Not to say he is a bad guy or bad coach, he just has a the abilty to get guys who have have had other coach's bring them alone when there near the top. Then get them real sharp, take the credit. And once they start getting hurt back off.

SolRichards wrote:

K Sull Is a good runner has run fast, but he has really not getten better since he started working with RW.

Hey Einstein, Sully has been working with Warhurst (and no other) since he was a freshman in college in 1993. In that time, he has improved his 1500m by 8 seconds (a very large amount given that he came in already world class). He has also had many "good" years -- 5th at Worlds in 1995, 3:34 national record in 1997, 5th at the Olympics and 3:31 in 2000. That's steady progression over the course of a decade.

He did get 8 sec faster in the mile but keep this in mind, he also got stronger, that is part of ageing. He did not get much faster in the 8:00, and he was allready a sub 4 mile when he started working with RW. I would go as far as to say, that seeing as has as much abilty as he has. That almost any coach given the chance to train hem would have gotten good results. The real question is why is a guy that had as much abilty as he did a world champ. Some people regardless of the training are going to run fast times they just have that abilty. I think if one removes KS from the picture his coaching take a diffrent light.

Don't get me wrong, I do not think he is a bad coach. I just think that he is rated a little higher then need be. And also it seems to me that if you step in place as a coach. Of a runner who is about ready to make a brake though, and then take credit for that brakethough when there last coach was the one who got them to that point then your doing something wrong. I am sure he is a very nice guy, and like most people is under a lot of stress to keep his job. So I can understand where he is coming from, but the bottem line is that people run most people he works with run fast burn out and where allready near peak when they get to hem. If his cross teams start winning then I will see things in a new light.

SolRichards wrote:

people run most people he works with run fast burn out and where allready

Is this guy drunk, or a 5 year old?

solrichards i debated rather to post this or not, but i will because you've said some rediculus things on this thread,so here goes... i have a question? what planet are you living on? because it sure isn't Earth. I believe Broe broke his foot hurdling steeple barriers 2 years ago, and has had problems ever since, not training problems. Umm, Brian Diemer didn't he win a bronze medal at the olympics, yea he peaked at a bad time. and like Ferris said Sully has been running for Warhurst for a long time now, and you can't credit anyone else with his progress, and aging is a terrible arguement, if everyone ran that much faster with age then the world record would be under well 3:25 for 1500 due to the junior record. Ohh what about about Brannen and Willis, they are both very quick, didn't Willis just break the NCAA 3000 record and run a 3:56 indoor mile? Ohh yea i forgot its their previous coaches credit even though ones a sophmore, and ones a junior... please don't attack coaches like that when you don't have any creditable information.

after attempting to read your post, i have no doubt that you are beyond being a dumb ass.

I stand along with what I have stated. He knows the coaching models. And when given a good runner who has been refined from wroking with a past coach they run fast. But most of the guys he trains burnout!. If he was truly one the great coach that he is felt to be. Then why is it that all of is top runners where very very good befor they came to hem. If it where not for the fact, that the kids he gets from around the world where white. People would be saying that he is just a coach that stacks his teams with blacks.

On the Bro issue, where is bro? From what I rember he was allready up and commeing when he came to RW. His last coach had done all the hard work, and at that point alls he needed was a littl speed work. And as far as getting hurt, no one ever got hurt overnight. Most people get hurt when there body has been broken down. This happes when to much hard work is done. The fact that Bro seems to be out of the game, would give an idea. That he was worked so hard that he burntout. Anyone can take a runner and peak them once there ready. But to me the person who should get the credit for the job is the one who worked with them for the 2-3 years befor they hit there peak.