I ran 2:32 at NYC marathon unrelaxed. Can I break the WR if I learn to relax?

7 Eleven Store Clerk wrote:

I am one of those people.

Now here is the kicker. If I learn to relax and run a much faster time, you will have positive confirmation who I am.

I just tried to relax on my tempo this morning and was 12 seconds per mile faster with the same effort. There may be something to this relaxation stuff....

I am concerned for you. You may actually harm yourself by attempting to go faster by just relaxing. I dont want to see you do that (you might be a future World Record holder...or at least an Olympic Champion or something). You need to ALSO have fun while you are relaxing. the quote is "to just have fun AND relax". If you are not having fun you might be in jeopardy of permanent damage.

PLEASE Please please...relax AND have fun, just have fun (Not enjoyment, no propfound moments of self reflection, dont even try to be encouraging...just have fun and relax)then you will break the world record.

BTW, Chris Lukezic might be able to come out of retirement now by employing this secret island tactic of having fun and relaxing. I say he could give Alan Webb a run for the money.

oh my wrote:

Not too bright, are you?

No. I was so outraged by just the headline of the thread, that I didn't read the thread before angrily responding, pounding the keyboard. Though this was a joke, there are many posters on this site that think it is 'all so easy'. ie...I want to break 4 next year in the mile, my pr is 427, do I have a shot?

no u r a dilweed if u think wrote:

oh my wrote:

Not too bright, are you?

No. I was so outraged by just the headline of the thread, that I didn't read the thread before angrily responding, pounding the keyboard. Though this was a joke, there are many posters on this site that think it is 'all so easy'. ie...I want to break 4 next year in the mile, my pr is 427, do I have a shot?

No, you're a dilweed if you think that.

no u r a dilweed if u think wrote:

No. I was so outraged by just the headline of the thread, that I didn't read the thread before angrily responding, pounding the keyboard. Though this was a joke, there are many posters on this site that think it is 'all so easy'. ie...I want to break 4 next year in the mile, my pr is 427, do I have a shot?

Wow. Honesty. I was not expecting that.

Anyway the title alone should be a good clue that it's a joke.

I'm a college distance runner at the end of a long cross country season and really wished I could have learned this 2 weeks ago before my League Championship meet. If only I knew to relax and have fun I definitely think O could have won, I'll just have to wait for indoor. Now that you know to relax I say just go to Boston to break 2:00 it should be easy now.

no u r a dilweed if u think wrote:

earth to 232 guy! I ran practice marathons for long runs in the 230 to 240 range, in the course of a 130 mile week.....but could NOT break 220 in the 3 times I attempted it. To think you could even run 217 is ridiculous. Now... you go run a 225 first, then a 219, then a 214 in the course of the next 4 years....then we'll talk. My money says you never even run 2:20, let alone 204 you idiot.

geb ran his first marathon in 2:48 and his second in 2:06, so people can improve leaps and bounds from one marathon to the next.

douglas burke wrote:

geb ran his first marathon in 2:48 and his second in 2:06, so people can improve leaps and bounds from one marathon to the next.

Maybe I was right.

newname wrote:

I am curious why you think he wouldn't be Ryan or Chris also? Or do you not consider Michigan and Minnesota to be part of America?

as mentioned MY GUESS was that the OP was from either rob or adam. didn't mention any US States.. curious are you from MI or MN and if so why do you feel so inferior that you read into my not guessing the OP was from one of these state/ runners? I guess I was wrong, the 2:32 was from Ryan or Chris, which one are you?

The key to proper relaxation lies in high top Jordans.

older than dirt wrote:

as mentioned MY GUESS was that the OP was from either rob or adam. didn't mention any US States.. curious are you from MI or MN and if so why do you feel so inferior that you read into my not guessing the OP was from one of these state/ runners? I guess I was wrong, the 2:32 was from Ryan or Chris, which one are you?

I don't feel inferior, let's keep it on a high level. There were four Americans in the block of times you put up there, and you "guessed" that it was two out of the four. That just seemed strange to me.

The only way that makes sense is that you know all four of them and you know their writing style, and the writing style matched the two guys you mentioned.

I am neither Ryan or Chris, and MI and MN are great states no matter how you cut it.

The "not part of America" comment was a joke about the jingoism that has been happening since the NYCm happened.

According to the latest research, just getting out there are having fun is highly correlated to performance.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42542

"Maybe I was right."

Maybe you still have not learned to spot a joke.

If you were able to do this, you'd break 2:10 without a doubt. Relax and have fun.

The headline isn't quite as stupid as it sounds in being applied to long distance running, since relaxation is important enough to sprinting to allow several tenths of a drop in a 100m; try it next time you're doing your strides or 200s. But, of course, it does not account for Bolt being better than anyone else. First, there is the power and then there is the ability to maintain it longer than anyone else in history, and then way down the line is the relaxation.

Can one relax too much?

What is the optimal point of relaxation?

This needs further study.

He never said which year??

About this whole "relaxation helps you run faster" thing. When I relax, I slow down. It hurts to run fast. Running fast is not relaxing. My heart rate goes up. I sweat a lot. My muscles get tired faster. When I relax I sit on the couch and watch TV. When I'm most tense is when I'm running the second half of a race trying to break a PR and doing everything I can do to avoid relaxing. I'm telling my body to 'shutup, we've got another mile to go.' To relax is to slow down. When Bolt is running world record pace, he is further from relaxed than any human ever. Before and after the race is a different story, but you better believe when he is pushing off the ground his legs are anything but relaxed.

Just don't relax so much that you fall asleep...that would definitely not be beneficial. In that case, I suggest pulling off to the side of the road!

Well if your Adam or Chris you could drop some serious time by simply going out slower. Stop clowning around in the first half and remember its 26.2 miles. I dropped 12 min in my second thon by simply going out a bit slow. While relaxation and drafting are important, experience is paramount in marathoning. Or run a faster course, NYC is slow and it was so windy out there. You can prob run 2:25 on a fast course with a smart race. I almost caught you too, prob passed you in the baggage line with my brisk walking!