I just weighed myself at 169.6 pounds. How do I get back to 150?

veggies wrote:

Here is the answer - I am doing it now, trying to peel 15 lbs:

"Eat to Live" by Fuhrman:

- Eat at least 1 lb steamed vegtables per day

- In addition - eat 1 or 2 HUGE salads each day, no oils

- 4 or 5 fruits a day

- lesser amounts of starches (bread, grains)

- A handful of nuts

- No fruit juice or soda

- No oils or butter

It works. You can eat unlimited amounts of raw vegetables and fruits to satiate your hunger.

Protein much?

Read The China Study. And no, I don't feel hungry. The key to not feeling hungry is to eat enough sweet fruit. The sugar + fiber is very satiating.

also not a conspiracy theorist wrote:

People who suggest a high carb low fat diet have been brainwashed by 30 years of piss poor "nutrition nscience" or enjoy feeling hungry.

please show me controlled clinical trials where a high fat high protein diet induced a statistically significant increase in heart disease or cancer compared to the control group. since it has been shown "time and time again" it should be easy for you to atleast humor my skepticism.

Don't you think 2,000 calories a day is a little low for a runner? One 70 minute run at a 7 min pace burns about 1100 calories.

If a person is doing 70mpw I think 2,000 calories a day would be almost dangerously low.

This guy is trying to lose weight, for sure, but I think if he just ups the exercise and eats sensibly the weight will come off.

Once a skinny runner wrote:

I've been injured and kind of depressed since December of last year. I realized I was gaining weight but never stepped on a scale, until today. I'm nearly 170 pounds. I realize I just need to create a calorie defecit, stop eating crap, and run more (no problem there now that I'm healthy), but I was wondering about how long is this going to take? How much should I shoot to lose each week? How much protein should I eat?

I'm 5'11 by the way.

Get dumped by your girlfriend.

Wildwood wrote:

Run more and you'll be fine. Stop freaking out about food intake and hit the trails.

Stay off the trails and keep it on the crete.

"170 for 5'11 is fine, unless you have a really diminutive build."

Not true. 40 yr ago, the avg American male was 150lb

the avg American male was also nowhere near 5'11

170 pounds is enormous for anyone trying to run competitively. If you're okay with joggin a few miles now and then and running midpack of your local 5k it's not so bad, but otherwise I'd say 155 is about as big as a distance runner should ever be at that height. I know plenty of guys who are 135-145 at that height.

try the old method of exercising, focusing on smaller meals more often, mad mostly of protein. Or, try some laxitives, with some high fluid, low solid food diet.

calorie intake v output.put less in and burn more.

since i have upped my milegae after a long time out like yourself i have dropped 12pounds in 4 weeks.

Didn't Seb Coe weigh about 119lbs?

The Bare Facts wrote:

Don't you think 2,000 calories a day is a little low for a runner? One 70 minute run at a 7 min pace burns about 1100 calories.

If a person is doing 70mpw I think 2,000 calories a day would be almost dangerously low.

This guy is trying to lose weight, for sure, but I think if he just ups the exercise and eats sensibly the weight will come off.

I have been doing it every so often for years. During the offseason, I tend to get 6 or 8 lbs over my race weight.

I have been doing it right now for the last 3 or 4 weeks and am feeling great. I have been running about 35 miles a week and stairmastering another 5+ hours so the equiv of about 75 miles a week. (I was running only over the winter about 50 a week but at a slower pace)

I do get a little hungry on days I work out twice and will just eat another small meal of a couple hundred calories. Since you are already cutting down a lot, it is more important to eat that extra meal than be low on energy.

I weigh in the 130s so if you are a bigger guy just up the calories for you each day 2-400 and it should give you plenty of energy.

When you start getting real lean and start losing a little energy on the calories you are eating, it is time to up them a little to what you need each day. It really isn't that complicated.

Remember, a lb of that fat you have stored in your gut will give you the energy to run for 3 days. Until you use up most of that, I don't think you should worry about being low on energy from around 2k worth of food.

Last, the problem I have with just trying to lose 1 lb or less a week is that you have to cut down for a much longer time and it is easier to fall off the band wagon. It is much easier to stay on a program if you know that you only have to do it for a shorter amount of time. The OP should be able to get close to his goal wt in 2 months and he will be able to really see noticeable differences during that time.

I'm in the same boat. 5'10" 171 lbs (up from 155 lbs) after a stress fracture last year and eating a lot during the holidays. I'm trying to get back into it seriously but kind of struggling.... feel really slow and having pains all over from the extra weight. I am just starting a serious diet so we'll see how it goes.

I forgot to mention: AIDS works wonder too.

Use 68600 more calories than you take in. It is like safe to do 1000-1500 calories deficit a day assuming you are consuming at least 1500-2000 calories of food in a sensible complete (meaning that you watch that your diet is deficient in some way) way.

This means that it will take you 45 days if you are perfect about it and push the limits of "safe" dieting.

I tend to push the boundaries a little further, which makes me pretty grumpy and probably isn't as healthy and usually lose about .5 pounds a day rather than .333 but I am usually trying to lose 10 pounds at most, 20 is I think it a little to long to try to go that far.

you idiot, that wont work

Well, I think I had a full stomach yesterday, because today I weighed myself at 165.6 pounds, and this was on the same scale at the same time of day. I figure I could be as low as 160 by next week if I was strict with my diet and weighed myself first thing in the morning (like I used to do when I was 150). That would put me at only 10 or so pounds from goal weight, which is a lot better than 20.

My plan is to eat about normal throughout the day or a little under, then run 5-7 miles before bed and recover with about 100Cal of recovery drink or something. I figure that pretty much guarentees at least a 500Cal deficit each day, and if I am strict during the day, it could be 1000. I'm optimistic.

Thanks for all the advice.

Read Michael Pollan's "In Defense of Food" and "An Ominvore's dilemma." He has many clinical trials referenced. The China study is mentioned, although I have not read it yet.

However, high fat and protein don't necessarily result in heart diease and cancer. Many foods, i.e. olives, oily fishes, nuts ect are very nutritious sources of fat and protein. The icelandic and mediteranian(spelling i know sorry)diets are very high in fat and protean and the people who eat them have very low levels of heart dieases.

The whole problem seems to start with the process of subsidising corn growers, then the animals eat corn instead of grass, you drink corn syrup in your beverage with your corn fed animals, while eating proceesed foods with tons of corn products in them along side of it all.

If you want to lose weight, cut out processed food and cook everything with fresh ingredients. You'll eat more nutritionally dense food with less calories. Your body can more easily breakdown what you need, (no need to send high fructose corn syrup [HFCS] through your liver), and most non-processed food has more fiber and cellouse in it, which fill you up without adding calories.

Whole grains instead of white flour, brown ricce syrup or cane sugar instead of HFCS, don't eat food with ingredients you can't pronounce or that sound like laboratory chemicals, Grass fed, or pastured meats instead of feedlot meats. Take small steps and you'll find yourself feeling better with less weight.

You are correct: ANIMAL fat & protein is far more dangerous than PLANT fat & protein.

Animal fat is largely saturated (unhealthy), while plant fat is largely unsaturated (healthy). This is very well known. Less well known is the difference between animal protein and plant protein.

advantages of plant protein:

-usually come with more fiber

-usually come with protective phytochemicals

-usually less apt to raise insulin production

-usually associated with lower body weight

-usually associated with lower body fat

-usually associated with lower IGF-1 which is usually associated with lower cancer risks

-usually associated with lower energy production/environmental impact costs

-usually associated with lower net acid production

-usually associated with more of the nonessential amino acids, which might in themselves be protective, although they are not as usable as the essential ones

-usually associated with less kidney damage in the long term

-they tend to be lower in the sulfur-containing amino acids. The ones with sulfur (cysteine, methionine) tend to oxidize more easily and raise homocysteine levels, which is bad.

THE MORAL: GO VEGAN!